The start of this song sounds very much like the start of 'more than a dream/heart'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBfcSLDU ... tube_gdata

What does everyone think would be the best track to rework for Alternative 2? I figure it should be something very "Pet Shop Boys-y", just like Paninaro was. Probably Resurrectionist or Fugitive would be the best then, though perhaps other songs could be reworked more interestingly? Betrayed could be done in a totally different way, Didn't Get Where I Am Today could be done with more synths. There was talk of No Time For Tears being a single anyway, and it's a timeless sounding song. I'd rather they not just put something out that is "updated" a la It Doesn't Often Snow At Xmas. That was a bit of a bust for me. Bright Young Things with a few extra synth squiggles wouldn't be much excitement.

Oh, and yeah, it's a poll. No worries, I wont make another this week, so no need for snarky comments about how you knew one was coming from me sooner or later.

Anyone know of, or hear about this UNICEF campaign film featuring All Over The World? Is it happening? Has it happened? I thought it was quite an interesting bit of news when we first heard about it. The tour programme suggests of a rough film but that's all ive read about it.

in this month mailout:



TRACKLIST:
Disc 1:
1. Obsession - Always On My Mind (Wayne G Heavenly Radio Edit)
2. East End Boys - Opportunities (Let's Make Lots Of Money) (Wayne G Heavenly Anthem Mix)
3. East End Boys - West End Girls (Almighty Boys Club Mix)
4. East End Boys - Go West (Castro Boy Club Mix)
5. Natalie Browne - I'm Not Scared (Ian Stephens Mix)
6. Obsession - Where The Streets Have No Name / Can’t Take My Eyes Off You (Almighty Definitive Club Mix)
7. The Kinky Boyz - In The Night (Almighty Definitive Club Mix)
8. Obsession - Losing My Mind (Almighty Definitive Club Mix)
9. Obsession - It's A Sin (Almighty Definitive Club Mix)
10. Obsession - Always On My Mind (Almighty Definitive Club Mix)

Disc 2:
1. Obsession - Always On My Mind (Wayne G Heavenly Club Mix)
2. Obsession - It's A Sin (Almighty Boys Club Mix)
3. Almighty Allstars - Left To My Own Devices (Almighty Anthem Club Mix)
4. Obsession - In Private (Almighty Anthem Club Mix)
5. Various Artists - Almighty PSB Mix





Playlist:
'Obsession - Always On My Mind':
1. Wayne G Radio Edit
2. Wayne G Club Mix
3. Wayne G Instrumental
4. Almighty Definitive Club Mix


+ Obsession - 'It's A Sin':
1. Almighty Definitive Radio Edit
2. Almighty Definitive Club Mix
3. Almighty Boys Radio Edit
4. Almighty Boys Club Mix
5. Almighty Boys Dub


ANd1

In case you're interested, the NPR radio program wait, wait ... don't tell me played a little of Shopping @ the end of a segment. Here's the link to the show:


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=35

According to Neil in Literally 35 they have a contract in America for a new B Sides album which would carry on from where Alternative left off. Neil also says that EMI will also have to release it globally. They say there is about 40 tracks and it could be released next year, maybe even this year!! They also say they are quite keen for it to come out!

It also says that the current plan is for an album to be released of the PSB music from the ballet, to be released in March when the ballet starts

so thats 2 new albums coming!!!!

I am NOT looking for a copy bearing in mind the forum rules, but I am just wondering if anyone here has heard this mysterious track as mentioned on www.geowayne.com and what they think or whether they can describe it in a bit more detail.

According to Neil Tennant, this song was the most famous song of the group Dust and we know Neil Tennant took part of this group before being a Pet Shop Boy but it's strange because we know this song exists but we've never been listening to it.

I know when Neil says "famous" is something relative because it's obvious this song never could have been as famous as a Pet Shop Boys single, for example.

I've been seeing many comments about psb for ages but nobody has said he or she had met Neil Tennant when he was in Dust or having been to a concert of this group. Dust is a mistery for PSB fans.

Can you hear the dawn break?.

No.

"It's a moment, a defining moment when you know that your favourite band has reached its peak. That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill. Some call it the climax. Others call it 'Jumping the Shark.' From that moment on, the band will simply never be the same."

"The precise moment when you know a program, band, actor, politician, or other public figure has taken a turn for the worse, gone downhill; the moment you realise decay has set in."

After my homily to Behaviour, time to play Devil's advocate for a moment.

Now, I know that PSB fans can be a cynical bunch at the best of times, but was there ever a moment where you thought, "they've gone", "they've lost it" and subsequent experience proved you right? Irredeemably right?

Every band has a sell-by date - so I'm not talking about commercial popularity. I'm more interested in the artistic experience. Have Neil and Chris jumped the shark or have they pulled off the rare trick of remaining one step ahead over the last 25 years?

Given the consistent excellence of their output over three decades, I realise this question sounds a little churlish. But this is a fan forum and the little critical rigour that we apply is all that separates us from the lost world of inferior pop duo fandom.

In some ways, you could argue that all pop artists must inevitably decline in some way (the experience diminishes as they get older or you, the fan, gets older, times and fashions change, your priorities and perceptions change, etc). My view is that we're the luckiest pop fans in the world. Our favourite group is still going, still touring, still releasing records of stupendous quality. But, we're different people to the fans we were in 1990, for example. We've aged with the band. Our lives have changed. We've grown up. Our priorities have changed. How can we demand that our heroes be immune to this reality? Would we really want to freeze them in time somewhere in the late 1980s? Could it ever be the same for us even if we could?

Therefore, I'm not here to blame or criticise the PSBs for any perceived artistic decline when that perception of decline may be in the eye of the beholder as much as anything else. I'm more interested in how you, the fan, perceive them over time. Do you feel that your fan experience deteriorated at some point. If so, when was that moment?

I've long pointed at 1994 as their annus horribilis. Liberation was a terrible choice as fourth single from Very, Absolutely Fatuous was Neil as the showbiz creep of Too Many People, and Disco 2 was a wart on the face of their, until then, flawless catalogue. Up to that point, I felt they could do no wrong.

That said, even after that, I could never truly say they lost it. They've always found new ways to confound me. But other subsequent top-of-my-head moments where I thought "this isn't the band I fell in love with" include the ridiculous face-palm New York City Boy Top of the Pops performance, An Audience With Elton John, the butchered single mixes of Numb and I Get Along, and anything featuring E-Smoove and Superchumbo. Am I being picky? Oh yes, but there are only so many songs of praise a guy can warble in any given week. All in all, I'd say they've never really jumped the shark. But they've cleared a few sardines in their time.

Drico.

Any idea for Yes music sheet?
Bye
Andrea

... is in the post !!!

I was looking around on ''YouTube'' for something else earlier on today & guess what I came across - only the rarely-seen video for Ian Wright's 1993 single, ''Do The Right Thing'', which of course was co-written/produced by PSB's own Chris Lowe (who also appears in the video too!). I've never seen this video before (like most people), so was quite happy to have found it. Here's the link - enjoy!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDPJuimVAww

It's not a bad song either & certainly better than some other records by football players, such as the awful ''Diamond Lights'' by Glenn Hoddle & Chris Waddle! Lol

You may seem surprised to hear a 25yr long term fan since WEG was released is moving on, but here are just a few of many reasons that you may or may not agree with. Not bitter or angry, just truthfull and kinda pleased about the honesty it portrays.

The clincher, was going to the Brighton gig on 19th July - I was looknig forward mainly to see how I would react to be honest.
I was at the very front, yes I saw the family pushing and swearing, but that’s drink and the social rundown in the UK we live in today. I Can live with that, although we shouldn’t have too.
Wasn't impressed with the concert (or the rather odd single people there), the PSBs music and attitudes towards fans regarding poor mixes of releases, and you just feel everything is to make money, from releasing expensive box sets, to gigs they look like they didn’t enjoy, especially Chris. No enthusiasm at all, and that’s not much for Chris anyway.

Left the gig feeling rather uninspired, unfulfilled and kind of a let down by the whole thing. But it made me decide that it's time to move on. (Sophie E.B was the highlight to be honest, which must say something.)

The forum here is winding me up. With some members posting pointless polls, and have nothing better to do with their time.
OCD is troublesome condition, which can be cured, so please, go and get some help.. It's not personal, but pointless threads show how bored and annoying some can really be.

Ok, so the music is not any good, the reason behind the whole PSBs thing is uninspiring and dull. How many mixes of Love Etc do we need? well, if there any good then fine, but how poor is that REMIXES CD.

Christmas E.P? pointless and boring.

Any of you who wish, can bid on my MINT 12" Remixes and ltd editions if you want to give them a good home and need that crisp MINT un-played release. If you’re happy, then enjoy them and the PSBs in the future.

For me?
30 seconds To Mars, Linkin Park, Billy Talent to name a few excellent bands offering exciting music and gigs is the forward path.
I have enjoyed the ride, and for those still on the train (stream train that is), enjoy yourselves. I wish you the very best, I’m sure this thread will be an interesting one at least.

Thanks for the good times to all.
The present is what life is all about - have a think about that last sentence, I hope it helps you decide what you want out of your life and music. Cheers

Cracking show by the PSB et al this evening. They seemed to genuinely enjoy themselves on stage, and I enjoyed being on the front row for the first time in a few gigs.

I was having dinner at the hotel they are staying at earlier, and saw either Sophie or Polly pop across the road to the Indian restuarant. I was concerned she might see it repeat on her during the show!

I'm tempted to go an see them in Bournemouth, but I'm not sure Mrs DPSB fancies seeing them again!



On a negative side.. I've just popped by this forum for the first time in a while to see countless polls which have been done to death through the years. Nice to see they've been locked though!

It struck me the other day that this year heralds the 20th anniversary of the release of Behaviour. Tempus fugit and all that. It’s probably the most intense record I’ve ever immersed myself in, a beautiful, poignant and sophisticated recollection of adolescence, growing up and moving on in life. To the point where you look back and realise, with some quiet surprise, that it was 20 years ago. 1990: a different world, the recent fall of the Berlin Wall, Communism in collapse, Mandela released from prison – all comparatively trivial to those of us going through the really serious business of growing up.

As a teenager, you undoubtedly perceive things more intensely – especially if you feel that the author of such a work is speaking either directly to you or on your behalf. From the understated artwork to the sombre tone of much of the record, everything seemed very deliberate. From the black and white videos to the “quotations from someone’s wife, a famous writer” on the back cover of its second single, there seemed to be a guiding hand at work painstakingly building a unique world that listeners were drawn irrevocably into, lost forever.

From the effortless cool that surrounded lead single So Hard to the sense that this was a seminal record by the greatest band of the day, Behaviour’s commercial underperformance simply added to the claustrophobic atmosphere that here was a cult that I am part of. Those who understand need no explanation. Those that don’t don’t matter...

All of which is strange when you consider just how big Neil and Chris were prior to its release. Then again, it was perhaps because they had been so successful that they could write and release such an esoteric record. Dance music had moved on since Introspective in 1988. By their return in 1990, Neil was 36. They needed to forge new horizons and copper-fasten their legacy – and Behaviour was the first step to longevity. It cost them some fans at the time, but it locked some of us in forever.

The lyrical wit of So Hard, the chart position crash of Being Boring, bizarre other-worldly TV appearances on Top of the Pops and Def2, the desperate but hilariously biting U2 satire, songs about the communism of the classroom, ageing regret, and the passing of time, not to mention the impending sense of commercial doom all contributed to the intensity of the experience.
To then put this world onto a stage a few months later in Performance was pure genius. To me, this was the apex.

Am I alone in this feeling, you know, the sensitive slightly pretentious weirdo in the corner who everyone points at, or do others share a similar sense of the time? Was it all that, or is there a sepia-toned tint to these recollections? Did it kill them commercially or did it take them to a new level? Am I encouraging an interesting debate or are we all eating an apple with a deadpan sense of ennui?

Drico.

Drico, you locked my poll!!!

I'm not being tarred with the same brush, am I?

Hello, my name is Turd of Third, and I was just wondering if anyone on this Pet Shop Boys Forum had ever ventured an opinion as to which Pet Shop Boys song is their, like, favourite?

Looking forward to hearing your replies! Woo.

Which of these tracks is the most In-Yer-Face, loud, bass-y, full of attitude, going to fu$k you up song?

The penultimate best track is?

Which is their most erudite song? I'm sure I missed a couple.