Do you think PSB should postpone the DREAMWORLD tour because of covid-19?

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Do you think PSB should postpone the DREAMWORLD tour because of covid-19?

Yes, it's a risk for everybody. Let's wait a few months
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No, I don't think it's necessary
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#91 Post by drunk14 »

Be realistic. The whole tour will be cancelled along with Glastonbury. As far as I know, UK government has surprisingly light approach towards the danger, so it will hit this country twice as much as it could. Hopefully, PSB will survive. All the best.
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#92 Post by jyllinge »

alig wrote:
Thu 12 Mar 2020, 6:55 pm
glennjridge wrote:
Thu 12 Mar 2020, 2:27 am
One take away I see from the numbers is its appears in relation to the infected, the death rate appears low. another words, the majority of the infected are getting it,suffering thru it and riding it out and recovering. I suspect that the statistics would by and large paint a picture of the usual suspects having a harder time and maybe succumbing to this due to age, general health etc etc
Probably millions of people caught the virus, recovered but since they weren't tested, they're not counted towards the mortality rate which would be probably as high as for the previous corona viruses.
WHO now estimate the death rate somewhere between 0.3% and 1%, the H1N1/H3N2 flu is normaly about 0.1%. Most experts estimate we will see the same rate as for flu in the end, especially since most people under 60 of age seems to go almost completely free from anything bad (except if they are chronically ill related to the immune-defense).

Meaning when Italy has now 1016 deaths (basically all elderly +60 of age with pre-existing health conditions).

Then the total in Italy is probably over 1 million infected if not even more.

Thou its hard to say for sure...Singapore has zero deaths and been in the line of fire from the beginning (rather impressive) - I know they got some people in ICU but still no deaths.

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#93 Post by glennjridge »

When I was over in Italy in 2014, I dont know if its the custom there but I saw people kissing each other on both cheeks.
I suspect that could be a cause of high transmission rates once you factor in this thing had been probably spreading under the radar and people had no cause at that time to think a new virus was making the rounds.

I think most of this concern is due more to its high infection rate, not necessarily its mortality rate. and when it does get to the topic of the morality rate its concerning because many of us have parents and grandparents, and we know people who are ill, and we rightly go into panic mode because we see, that out of the blue, a virus has come on the scene that can kill them. and that to me is the real reason behind the panic...not that most people die from this. because they dont. but that shows how good we are as a people. to strive to move heavens and earth to protect those that are more at risk.

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#94 Post by Patrick Bateman »

jyllinge wrote:
Fri 13 Mar 2020, 9:58 pm
Thou its hard to say for sure...Singapore has zero deaths and been in the line of fire from the beginning (rather impressive) - I know they got some people in ICU but still no deaths.
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#95 Post by michael888 »

Even if you recover from the Chinese Pneumonia, you find it more difficult to breathe, because the impact to your lungs is permanent.

And for those who still thinks wearing a mask doesn’t work, here’s an excerpt from TIME:
But, David Hui, a respiratory medicine expert at the Chinese University of Hong Kong who studied the 2002 to 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) extensively, says it’s “common sense” that wearing a mask would protect against infectious diseases like COVID-19.

“If you are standing in front of someone who is sick, the mask will give some protection,” Hui says. “The mask provides a barrier from respiratory droplets, which is predominantly how the virus spreads.”

He also says that the role of a face mask may be especially important in the epidemic due to the nature of the virus. Patients with COVID-19 often have mild or even no symptoms, and some researchers believe it can also be transmitted when patients are asymptomatic—meaning patients can be contagious and don’t know they’re sick.

Hui adds that the lack of solid evidence supporting the effectiveness of masks against the virus is no reason to dismiss its use, because there may never be definitive scientific proof. A properly controlled study would be impossible to conduct ethically, he explains. “You can’t randomize people to not wear a mask, and some to wear a mask, and then expose them all to the virus,” he says.

Joseph Tsang, an infectious disease specialist who also worked as a consultant for the city’s Hospital Authority, says the purpose of wearing a mask is two-fold. “Wearing a mask is not just for protecting yourself from getting infected, but also minimizing the chance of potential infection harboring in your body from spreading to people around you,” he tells TIME.

Tsang says the three layers of a surgical mask filter help reduce the risk of contact with droplets, through which the virus is transmitted. “Whenever you foresee to have someone within two to three meters (6.5 to 10 feet) apart, then it’s better to wear a mask,” Tsang adds.
https://time.com/5799964/coronavirus-face-mask-asia-us/
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#96 Post by michael888 »

Also, the reason that Hong Kong and Taiwan having such low infection rate despite being close to China, is that we have never trusted China and WHO.
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#97 Post by glennjridge »

a few things. I also saw that article, but I dont think a blanket statement cant be made about those that recover having permanent breathing problems since, it has to take into account there appear to be varying degrees of infection depending on age and health factors. apparently,people who are infected,About 81% have mild symptoms of COVID-19 that hasnt gotten to the pneumonia stage of things https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-myths.html

and apparently some people get this thing and dont even know they have it. I suspect its very possible those who have underlying health issues and the elderly would have far more effects and would indeed have more difficulties after recovery.

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#98 Post by michael888 »

glennjridge wrote:
Sat 14 Mar 2020, 7:08 am
a few things. I also saw that article, but I dont think a blanket statement cant be made about those that recover having permanent breathing problems since, it has to take into account there appear to be varying degrees of infection depending on age and health factors. apparently,people who are infected,About 81% have mild symptoms of COVID-19 that hasnt gotten to the pneumonia stage of things https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-myths.html

and apparently some people get this thing and dont even know they have it. I suspect its very possible those who have underlying health issues and the elderly would have far more effects and would indeed have more difficulties after recovery.
The scariest thing is that when you manage to feel your lungs a little bit burning, you certainly have serious lung infection.
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#99 Post by jasonjohn »

They won't be given a choice anyway.


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#101 Post by gehegu »

I’m absolutely sure that wearing a mask is a must, the problem, at least in spain is that there are not many masks available, and the ones in store are for doctors or patients already infected. If everyone’s got a mask there’s a risk of leaving these more critic groups (patients, elder people and health workers) without one.

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#102 Post by jasonjohn »

#4 in that comic is questionable. People couldn't even test for coronavirus a month ago. No way to detect someone without symptoms being positive.

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#103 Post by jasonjohn »

Also wearing a mask will make it MORE likely to catch it. Most masks are for short term use, and they accumulate moisture that makes it more likely to pick up things from the environment.

The best use for masks: If someone is sick, ask them to wear one if they need to go briefly into public. BUT most of them are ineffective for healthy people and could make it worse.

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#104 Post by canveyboy »

Just been announced that the government will be banning all public gatherings of 500+ people effective from next Saturday.

The tour will now absolutely be postponed. It’s just a matter of them organising and re-scheduling dates TBA.

Literally every other artist has announced postponed tour dates!
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#105 Post by Flaffer »

canveyboy wrote:
Sat 14 Mar 2020, 11:28 am

Literally every other artist has announced postponed tour dates!
That’s Literally not true
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