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#46 Post by Janet Street-Porter »

I think that it's a very brave subject to write a song about, particularly one which empathises with the terrorists. It's probably why it couldn't be a single - if biblical references are too much for EMI then imagine a song about terrorism which humanises rather than demonises the protagonists?

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Janet Street-Porter wrote:A silence filled the room
awkward as an elephant
in the crowded court of your love
I was now a supplicant


I think that this is the most perfect lyric that he's ever written. The song is pure poetry.
it is a majestic lyric, isn't it. The ground shifting beneath his feet, the welling emotion as the room becomes a court and he a helpless subject at the mercy of a monarch.

I also think Luna Park is lyrically masterful:

Every night we go
to the latest horror show
and hear the screams
in Luna dreams

the metaphor of the song takes on a life of it's own here - this is my favourite lyric on the album (thus far): it seems to sum up what Fundamental is about..
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#48 Post by glennjridge »

to me its pretty obvious about terrorists.and I dont think there is any sympathetic tone in the lyric ,he is just stating the facts of a particular event.

these terrorists all have these feelings of brotherhood and one of they will die yet see each other on the otherside in paradise.

indefinite leave to remain/twentieth century/integral/luna park/fugitive.

these are all relevant to today. at least it isnt about freakin russia.

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#49 Post by glennjridge »

Ghost within this house wrote:
Janet Street-Porter wrote:A silence filled the room
awkward as an elephant
in the crowded court of your love
I was now a supplicant


I think that this is the most perfect lyric that he's ever written. The song is pure poetry.
it is a majestic lyric, isn't it. The ground shifting beneath his feet, the welling emotion as the room becomes a court and he a helpless subject at the mercy of a monarch.

I also think Luna Park is lyrically masterful:

Every night we go
to the latest horror show
and hear the screams
in Luna dreams

the metaphor of the song takes on a life of it's own here - this is my favourite lyric on the album (thus far): it seems to sum up what Fundamental is about..
yeah for me luna park is about people trying to live in a oblivious fantasy world but someday, something quite possibly a nuclear detonation will end all of it so much so it might cause a final nuclear exchange that could pretty much end mankind.its a great anlogy neil came up with.

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#50 Post by Lleonard Pler »

'Fugitive' can be seen as a song about terrorists... or about soldiers sent to war, IMO. It's a song of two people about to die because of an imposed ideal and also because someone has promised them a Heaven when they die this way. It's such a sad yet beautiful song.
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#51 Post by Janet Street-Porter »

glennjridge wrote:to me its pretty obvious about terrorists.and I dont think there is any sympathetic tone in the lyric
Sorry Ridgester but the song does empathise with the terrorists. As I said, it's extremely brave but also a truly artistic statement.

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#52 Post by glennjridge »

so?like I said,there is no sympathy to their ideology in the song. he is simply stating the relationship of these hijackers before their mission.if anything its about them resigned to their impending death.

if neil during concert bows down and faces mecca while dipping bread in humus and opens their concert with "the blood of the martyrs"then I will be worried, until then its just a account of hijackers.

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#53 Post by Janet Street-Porter »

glennjridge wrote:so?like I said,there is no sympathy to their ideology in the song. he is simply stating the relationship of these hijackers before their mission.if anything its about them resigned to their impending death.

if neil during concert bows down and faces mecca while dipping bread in humus and opens their concert with "the blood of the martyrs"then I will be worried, until then its just a account of hijackers.
No, he certainly doesn't sympathise with their ideology but he does present them as human beings which is something your President would probably throw him in Guantanamo Bay for.

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#54 Post by Lleonard Pler »

But that's because they ARE human beings.

It's a brave song. A masterpiece.

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#55 Post by Pacific707 »

no they are just terrorists

fantastic song regardless

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#56 Post by glennjridge »

Janet Street-Porter wrote:
glennjridge wrote:so?like I said,there is no sympathy to their ideology in the song. he is simply stating the relationship of these hijackers before their mission.if anything its about them resigned to their impending death.

if neil during concert bows down and faces mecca while dipping bread in humus and opens their concert with "the blood of the martyrs"then I will be worried, until then its just a account of hijackers.
No, he certainly doesn't sympathise with their ideology but he does present them as human beings which is something your President would probably throw him in Guantanamo Bay for.
I'd throw you in guantanamo, but you'd probably enjoy it. :mrgreen:

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Pacific707 wrote:no they are just terrorists

fantastic song regardless
*sigh*

So they're not Human because of something they do?
I don't agree with terrorists and terrorism but they are Human, just like you and me.

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#58 Post by a powerful friend »

I'm wondering if Fugitive was inspired by the recent Palestinian movie, "Paradise Now".

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#59 Post by glennjridge »

! wrote:
Pacific707 wrote:no they are just terrorists

fantastic song regardless
*sigh*

So they're not Human because of something they do?
I don't agree with terrorists and terrorism but they are Human, just like you and me.

:roll:
we call people inhuman all the time. its a legit word.its not like they change species but we do define people by behaviour.its what seperates us from animals. if one looks like a human yet say pushes whole families into a gas chamber to exterminate a whole race, well for me, they lost the right to be called human.

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#60 Post by glennjridge »

a powerful friend wrote:I'm wondering if Fugitive was inspired by the recent Palestinian movie, "Paradise Now".
been meaning to see that. I heard they actually filmed in the areas where bombings happen ever there.no hollywood set for that movie.I think it got some good reviews.

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