Syncratic wrote:
When you eventually get down off your hobby horse you'll realise that I haven't even claimed half the things you suggest. The simple version of the point I made was that in attempting to defend Erasure, Stephano's posts seem to be having the opposite effect. I wouldn't want him in charge of my PR that's for sure.
You know, it's pretty sad that all you have to offer is backhanded, sly comments but you simply can't take it when people give you the same in return. I have never once attacked you, and neither has Tuff Enuff, but you issue relentless attacks, then get "perplexed" as to why we get defensive.
Syncratic wrote:
From what I recall Pulse tried to play the PR card in his reasoning of why Erasure weren't doing as well. I pointed out in the off topic section that PR is only as good as the rec company and the band members, and doesn't exclusively explain why a band doesn't perform well in the charts. Now you can try all sorts of things to measure this, and all kinds of targetted marking and focus groups, etc but sometimes, sometimes, the song might not be much cop and the buyers just don't like it. It can happen with Erasure or the Pet Shop Boys and doesn't always have anything to do with poor PR. I for one have not suggested that PSB poor performance is because of bad PR. As you know they're getting loads of promotion so far and so it doesn't always translate that this will equal success. So even if Erasure were on TV 24/7, I doubt they'd perform any better. So not you or anyone can go about bleating that the main reason Erasure don't do as well is because the marketing dept at Mute is rather thin and poor because this is BS frankly.
Are you actually believing what you are writing? And you are wrong, in my opinion, if Erasure had more exposure, they would *definitely" have more success. In what reality do your observations and theories hold any water? You can't simply pick and choose from what you want when you talk about a far more detailed and complex issue. Nobody ever commented that PR was the be all end all of anything, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to show there was hardly any exposure/monies for Erasure.
Syncratic wrote:
In all fairness one of the main reasons that stringent Erasure fans get a raw deal on here is because they can't take a joke, they come across as arrogant and defensive, they insult anyone who disagrees with them and they are unable to stare the facts in the face that Erasure don't perform as well because they don't write 'em they way they used to. I think much of the slagging off with Erasure can sometimes degenerate a bit and clouds any real, dare I say, intelligent discussion. If the likes of Stephano, Pulse and yourself, were able to occasionally let your hair down a bit, you might not get the reactions you do.
Are you for real? Here you are not able to let something go, and you are saying Erasure fans can't take a joke? I think Erasure fans on here are simply sick of unwarranted, indiscriminate, and *constant* attacks. It's *you* who can't stop attacking. If there was no offensive, there would be no need for defensive. If you want us to let our hair down, I think you need to untie your tightly-wound hairbun first, and drop the constant jabs.
Syncratic wrote:
Oh and if you want to talk about hypocrisy, just pop over to Erasure's 'official' forum and witness the spineless and childish assualts PSB get in a sub-forum supposedly dedicated to the boys and you'll see that hypocrisy is a two way street, dear.
Listen,
dear. Don't patronise me. There are at least 30 attacks toward Erasure on this forum for every one attack there. Not to mention, here they are scrambled all over the forum, when you get the odd one every few months on the other forum against PSB - and the attacks PSB get are due to the likes of Undertaker, PB, and a handful of others who have different names on that forum and are there to only goad and instigate.
Get real. That final comment you made provided me the realisation that you are full of hot air. I know you love the sound of your own voice, but I'd take it down a few notches as it's nothing but delusional ranting.
you don't see a forest because the trees cover it up for you, right? FFS, Integral was a single, everyone knows it. It was not supported as it should and it flopped big time. Is it so hard to admit it because it's the holy cow PSB?
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