ChocolatePoo wrote:I went to three stores that sold singles yesterday and none of them had anything other than the 2-track CD, so I ended up just going back to work and ordering all three formats from HMV online. All of them were despatched within about 3 hours anyway, so they're winging their way...
A question about the CD 2 track listing. On the hmv.co.uk website they have it as:
1. She's Madonna [Radio Edit]
2. She's Madonna
3. She's Madonna [Instrumental]
but I thought is was:
1. She's Madonna
2. She's Madonna [Chris Lake Remix]
3. She's Madonna [Kris Menace Vocal Re-Interpretation]
4. She's Madonna [Kris Menace Dub]
Could you let me know which one is correct please.
SoPetShopBoys wrote:
1. She's Madonna
2. She's Madonna [Chris Lake Remix]
3. She's Madonna [Kris Menace Vocal Re-Interpretation]
4. She's Madonna [Kris Menace Dub]
Could you let me know which one is correct please.
So HMV are wrong. This is what they said when I emailed them:
"Please note all the information on our product pages are provided to us directly by the supplier. If you are not satisfied with the product provided by HMV then we would be happy to replace the item for you upon receipt."
Eldritch wrote:The sad thing is that Rudebox is still absent from UK Top 75 album chart....
In fact it's not even close to the UK Top 75... - according to somebody on UKmix.org:
"the album sold just 700 copies last week in the UK, and was the no.276 album."
So it's safe to say that "She's Madonna" didn't exactly give a boost to album sales. Still, given the current Robbie situation, I find the #16 chart result for a 3rd single from a buthered album pretty acceptable.
But sadly that and Dazzer's info about the midweeks just shows that single only caught the attention of diehard Robbie fans and some PSB fans, who rushed out to buy the physical singles to complete their collection. Now that they have done that, the single is truly in freefall - especially when you take into account that nowadays the singles chart moves so much more slowly.
It's a real shame She's Madonna failed to reignite the fortunes of Rudebox because I think Summertime would have made a fantastic fourth single. As it is, there's next to no chance of that happening now.
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Kris wrote:It's a real shame She's Madonna failed to reignite the fortunes of Rudebox because I think Summertime would have made a fantastic fourth single. As it is, there's next to no chance of that happening now.
Yep, I guess they are rush-releasing that second swing album destined to make Robbie all uninteresting again.
Nothing like someone doing pale imitations of crooner classics to revive a flagging pop career. Mind you, perhaps he should just team up with Gary Barlow and bring out an album of dreary ballads, thats seems to work quite well these days.
I don't know if Robbie is still feeling vindicated. He must have known it would not go down as well as traditional Robbie. He should have "no regrets" over Rudebox. He should feel proud for flouting the consensus. But sadly, the nitwits from the label want ole Robbie with a hackneyed and stale swing album. I mean honestly, do we really need another swing album? Swing has been overkilled in recent years.
You get the impression in Chris Heath's book that Robbie doesn't want to be Robbie anymore, hence teaming up with Stephen Tin Tin Duffy to produce a different sound. If memory serves, Robbie wanted to be someone else for that album.....
The lad has his problems.....his disdain for his past comes across far to often and when you see him in concert he can hardly be bothered to sing the words for some of his classics letting his fans sing them instead.
All that money, all that success, all that acclaim has produced a deeply depressed and flawed character who deliberately gave his fans something he knew they wouldn't really like and now he pays the price.
Now the record company will read the riot act and tell im to produce something 'commercial' so they get some more cash back for their investment.
I partly agree with DazzerUKUK. But I don't blame it on Robbie himself, but on the ridiculous amout of money concerned with his record deal. He needs to sell, sell, sell. Robbie *can't* be himself, since it doesn't sell as well as the hit potential Robbie.
We all know Robbie's music taste. She's Madonna is probably the Robbie single that reflects his personal music taste best. But it doesn't sell as well as Angels, Feel, or a stupid cover of 'Something Stupid'...
Robbie *needs* to perform, because of the huge financial interests of his record company. This puts unreasonable pressure on the artist.
That said: please don't forget that She's Madonna is doing great in the European charts. It may not help to boost album sales, it *is* successful in many charts, including The Netherlands, Germany and Italy.
I interviewed Robbie last August and he was very contradictory in his views. On the other hand he seemed genuinely enthusiastic about Rudebox and said that he had been getting positive feedback from very unlikely people. But on the other hand he said that if he has to choose between good reviews and bad sales & bad reviews and 6-million sales, he'll go for the latter any time.
I have also read Chris Heath's book and it seems that Robbie is a very contradictory person. He hates fame but is addicted to it. He wants to be famous and he wants to be left alone. He hates the pressure of touring, but can't live without adulation. He has gone too far in this game to be able to scale down his success. When you have got used to selling 6 million copies of every album, the sales of 2 million have the sour yoghurt-gone-bad taste of failure about them. I fear he sees no point in making the music he wants to smaller audience.
Eldritch wrote: He hates fame but is addicted to it. He wants to be famous and he wants to be left alone. He hates the pressure of touring, but can't live without adulation.
Robbie's hardly unique in this. You could say exactly the same about dozens of pop stars.
I can't help thinking She's Madonna would have definitely been a big top 3 hit had it been the lead single off Rudebox. Unfortunately he chose one that was widely laughed at as the first single and it's severely dented his credibility.
People forget that the album received some reviews that said it was the best thing he's ever done but no one'e gonna remember that anymore...
Eldritch wrote: He hates fame but is addicted to it. He wants to be famous and he wants to be left alone. He hates the pressure of touring, but can't live without adulation.
Robbie's hardly unique in this. You could say exactly the same about dozens of pop stars.
But in Robbie those feelings are so extreme, that they make him a malfunctioning human being.
All of them were despatched within about 3 hours anyway, so they're winging their way...
