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Re: The Loving Kind

#31 Post by BrilliantPSB » Thu 07 Sep 2017, 5:25 pm

I just L O V E "THE LOVING KIND".
Neil vocals give the song even more emphatic sad feeling. The additional lyrics suit the song very well, too.
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Re: The Loving Kind

#32 Post by TallThinMan » Thu 07 Sep 2017, 8:35 pm

Drico One wrote:
Wed 06 Sep 2017, 7:33 pm
TallThinMan wrote:
Wed 06 Sep 2017, 8:07 am
Lots of folk here seen to rate The Loving Kind. What exactly is the appeal? To me it's one of the least interesting songs in the entire PSB canon. It's a competent pop song but there's nothing about it that grabs me.
I can't speak for a universal "appeal" - so I won't try to suggest that you are wrong about The Loving Kind - but I will describe what I like about it and why it appeals to me. In essence, it's hugely catchy and full of hooks, it doesn't hang around in revealing them, and doesn't outstay its welcome. It's also replete with Tennantisms that I find endearing. His use of the word "disinclined" speaks volumes. Neil is always disinclined about something or other. He was disinclined to stay in Suburbia, disinclined to conform to others' expectations, disinclined to play football, disinclined to smile on Top of the Pops, disinclined to play live, and disinclined to leave Vocal in the grim state it was in prior to giving it to Stuart Price.

There's also that bit in the middle about a Monday morning platform and losing his way - how utterly PSB: lost in urbanity while pondering whether or not to take the train.
That’s a good explanation, thank you. The “disinclined” always puts me in mind of “disenchanted” in Disappointed (that’s a good thing).

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Re: The Loving Kind

#33 Post by vincenzosz » Fri 08 Sep 2017, 7:36 am

I feared this would happen. When they finally release their version of this song it's basically a polished demo.
The Xenomania production really helps this on the Girls Aloud version, and Neil's vocals sound like a first take and are not great. Such a shame, this could be such a fun, euphoria PSB track if they only finished it properly.
Oh well...hopefully the other tracks from this era are held back do they can get a proper release on a future album or as b-sides.

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Re: The Loving Kind

#34 Post by Patrick Bateman » Fri 08 Sep 2017, 8:15 am

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4 ... ngry-feud/

Just imagine how Neil feels being the second best singer in the Pet Shop Boys.
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Re: The Loving Kind

#35 Post by Bulldog » Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:08 am

Nothing new. All the members of those manufactured tv acts always end up fighting like cats and dogs. It seems like they have nothing in common and just get together through contracts or auditions, up until the point where they can't stand each other anymore and just want to go solo...
"It was a dark and stormy night".
"You know what's wrong with your stories? They lack subtlety".
"It was a sort of dark and kind of stormy night".

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Re: The Loving Kind

#36 Post by Bulldog » Thu 14 Sep 2017, 10:06 am

It's now on YouTube but it sounds very roughly edited. Can anyone confirm if it's been altered?
"It was a dark and stormy night".
"You know what's wrong with your stories? They lack subtlety".
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Re: The Loving Kind

#37 Post by Xakrij » Thu 14 Sep 2017, 1:38 pm

Bulldog wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 10:06 am
It's now on YouTube but it sounds very roughly edited. Can anyone confirm if it's been altered?
Hello...

The original is 42:31 in length, so:
...edited = yes
...altered = ?

Original can be found here: https://mediacdn.acast.com/encoded/1fff ... -Coyle.mp3
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Re: The Loving Kind

#38 Post by Bulldog » Thu 14 Sep 2017, 1:46 pm

Xakrij wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 1:38 pm
Bulldog wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 10:06 am
It's now on YouTube but it sounds very roughly edited. Can anyone confirm if it's been altered?
Hello...

The original is 42:31 in length, so:
...edited = yes
...altered = ?
I can see why YT uploaders usually just change the pitch rather than editing the track... I'm not going to listen to the official version until it's released, but that edit's really poor.
"It was a dark and stormy night".
"You know what's wrong with your stories? They lack subtlety".
"It was a sort of dark and kind of stormy night".

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Re: The Loving Kind

#39 Post by Xakrij » Thu 14 Sep 2017, 2:47 pm

Bulldog wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 1:46 pm
Xakrij wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 1:38 pm
Bulldog wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 10:06 am
It's now on YouTube but it sounds very roughly edited. Can anyone confirm if it's been altered?
Hello...

The original is 42:31 in length, so:
...edited = yes
...altered = ?
I can see why YT uploaders usually just change the pitch rather than editing the track... I'm not going to listen to the official version until it's released, but that edit's really poor.

Hello...Bulldog

Sometimes I am a little slow on the uptake...you were referring to the song 'The loving kind'...not the podcast mp3 where Nadine Coyle brands Cheryl and Girls Aloud bandmates ‘bitter’ as she lifts lid on group’s angry feud. Anyway, the podcast is an entertaining listen.

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Re: The Loving Kind

#40 Post by Bulldog » Thu 14 Sep 2017, 3:11 pm

You know, a 42 minutes long demo would have been AMAZING! :mrgreen:
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Re: The Loving Kind

#41 Post by Pod » Fri 15 Sep 2017, 11:50 pm

Bulldog wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 3:11 pm
You know, a 42 minutes long demo would have been AMAZING! :mrgreen:
...but tedious.
Just for the sake of it, make sure you're always frowning. :|
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Re: The Loving Kind

#42 Post by Bulldog » Sat 16 Sep 2017, 10:45 am

Pod wrote:
Fri 15 Sep 2017, 11:50 pm
Bulldog wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 3:11 pm
You know, a 42 minutes long demo would have been AMAZING! :mrgreen:
...but tedious.
The Loving Kind (Brian Higgins' "Pet Shop Boys are rubbish" extended mix)
"It was a dark and stormy night".
"You know what's wrong with your stories? They lack subtlety".
"It was a sort of dark and kind of stormy night".

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Re: The Loving Kind

#43 Post by Synthrobot » Sun 17 Sep 2017, 7:45 pm

I was always a bit luke-warm to the Girls Aloud version, but this is great!

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Re: The Loving Kind

#44 Post by Pod » Sat 23 Sep 2017, 11:24 am

Bulldog wrote:
Sat 16 Sep 2017, 10:45 am
Pod wrote:
Fri 15 Sep 2017, 11:50 pm
Bulldog wrote:
Thu 14 Sep 2017, 3:11 pm
You know, a 42 minutes long demo would have been AMAZING! :mrgreen:
...but tedious.
The Loving Kind (Brian Higgins' "Pet Shop Boys are rubbish" extended mix)
Now there’s a thought!
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Re: The Loving Kind

#45 Post by Pod » Sat 23 Sep 2017, 11:26 am

Synthrobot wrote:
Sun 17 Sep 2017, 7:45 pm
I was always a bit luke-warm to the Girls Aloud version, but this is great!
I agree - it sounds better sung by a male. The “buy you flowers and pour you wine” line seems to fit better. Not that women can’t do this, before people start!
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