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#421 Post by leesmapman »

I agree with Danimal's review. The first 7 tracks are great, and then... mmm. I admit, the album version of Burning the heather is much better than the single version, but I can't remember the track before that and what were they thinking when they put Wedding in Berlin on this album.

Now I am sure my opinion on this album might change, all the best albums are growers, but at the moment it's my least favourite PSB/Price album.

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#422 Post by CroMagnon »

Think my single favourite moment is the first keyboard motif in Hoping for a Miracle leading into the beat and warm synths of the first verse and “On Waterloo Bridge ...”. A beautiful and uniquely PSB transition.
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#423 Post by Nickname »

leesmapman wrote:
Fri 24 Jan 2020, 10:49 pm
I agree with Danimal's review. The first 7 tracks are great, and then... mmm. I admit, the album version of Burning the heather is much better than the single version, but I can't remember the track before that and what were they thinking when they put Wedding in Berlin on this album.

Now I am sure my opinion on this album might change, all the best albums are growers, but at the moment it's my least favourite PSB/Price album.

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For me, Only in the Dark is the slow song with the most touching feeling of the whole album. I like it. About Wedding in Berlin, it was Stuart Price idea. Not a bad idea but I think they should work more in a proper song than this kind of techno rythm that sometimes looks like a tribute to Disco 2.

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#424 Post by MikeyC »

Rorie wrote:
Fri 24 Jan 2020, 9:54 pm
You just know that Will O The Wisp intro will be the new intro on tour if they modify the tracks they play when they tour this fall. Like Axis and Inner Sanctum was. A grand powerful opening.
Hell yes!! Absolutely!! :clap:

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#425 Post by jamie1978 »

Well. I am blown away.

Minus 'wedding in Berlin', which is utter tripe, this is one of their best albums - right up there with the Imperial phase + Yes / Electric

Will-o-the-wisp is mind bending. I'm on my 5th listen and while it was astonishing on first listen it keeps growing. Every listen I enjoy a new layer or sound. Hoping for a miracle is one of their best.

But the most unexpected delight is 'I don't wanna'. Crikey. What a track. It sounds like a lost gem from Please. Myself and my friends were all up and dancing as we listened. It would be a fantastic single choice - retro sounding but utterly compulsive.

This is truly one of their best albums.

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#426 Post by Spittingcat »

It’s currently my favourite as well. Lots to like though. I think we’ll be all be resequencing this album… not quite yet… but I think it’s inevitable… so many good songs, but the flow… well… let’s come back to that later.

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#427 Post by RyaB »

What are your thoughts on the inner label of the vinyl's Side B? Why the choice of two cranes, when the rest of the album's visual elements seem otherwise quite organic?
Perhaps it's a cheeky dig at the current musical landscape. The Boys have done quite a bit of the heavy lifting that's allowed electronic music to permeate the pop scene of late, yet rarely do I seem them heaped with the praise that many of their contemporaries seem to achieve. How often do we credit the crane operators and other craftspeople when marveling at the beauty in a building's architecture..?
...or maybe I'm just reading to much into an otherwise cool aesthetic.

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#428 Post by TwizzleUK »

Enjoy this on first couple of listens, as I do love a good PSB ballad, but oh my God 'Wedding In Berlin' might be their worst ever song - I've physically cringed both times I've played it. On that basis alone my first impressions rating of the trilogy now is 1. Super; 2. Electric; 3.Hotspot. but this must may be revisited...

I agree that Decide or An Open Mind would have both made better closers to this album.
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#429 Post by Spittingcat »

I’m enjoying Wedding… but replace it with either/both of An Open Mind or/and Decide, and we’d have something amazing. Actually, make Wedding the last track on side1, add in Open Mind somewhere along the way… close with Decide. 12 tracks isn’t unreasonable. But, let’s come back to this later.

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#430 Post by gehegu »

Decide is better than any of the songs in hotspot imho, not saying that the rest are any bad at all.

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#431 Post by Boring90 »

Will-o-the-wisp - It's easy to see why they opened with this one. Sleek and retro. I'm slightly unsure about Neil's spoken bits. Maybe it will make sense down the road. A

You are the one - Rather pleasant actually. One does get the feeling that Neil and Chris could write a song like this in their sleep. B-

Happy People - What decade am I in? Pure retro pop. B

Dreamland - A strong chorus meets muddled production and vocals. B-

Hoping for a miracle - Nice middle eight. Other than that it just sort of plods along. C+

I don't wanna - This one could have easily have fit on 'Yes'. I'm thinking the instrumental might work better on this one. B-

Monkey Business - PSB are clearly having a good time here. Depending on my mood I may just join them. B

Only the dark - The middle eight is slightly weak here but it doesn't matter as it's there to hold up everything else...and everything else is quite wonderful. This is a bit of an instant classic. A

Burning the heather - I love the melodic chord changes throughout. My winter PSB playlist has a new constant. A

Wedding in Berlin - I still can't wrap my head around this track. I'm liking it the more I listen to it, but I can't help but wonder if 'Decide' would be a better lp closer? I thought 'Legacy' confused me but this is on a whole new level. Maybe it's brilliant...maybe it's terrible. Thankfully Neil and Chris are still around to provide us with songs to ponder such questions.

Notes: I think the diversity of 'Hotspot' is it's strength. Like a wine, I get notes of early Depeche Mode(!?), 'Yes' (2009)...well it's all over the place really. I mean that in a good way. I like the mastering here better than 'Electric' or 'Super'. I'm assuming Hansa is the reason? Oh. I'm ready for a new producer.

Hotspot - B
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#432 Post by MikeyC »

Wedding in Berlin is best appreciated when you go into it as “WTF???” 🤪
I love this fun, bizarre closer!!

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#433 Post by solarin »

I have opposite feelings at the moment. Some excelent sounds, even increíble moments, but any song gets 10/10 for me.
But, the point is that I'm angry with the CD's inside. Nonsense photos, any of the Pets, and NO LYRICS! Unforgivable.

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#434 Post by billjermaine »

To all the people that are loving Wedding in Berlin, can I just remind you of these lyrics:

We're getting married
Because we love each other
We're getting married today
We're getting married
Because the time feels right
We're doing it without delay

I mean .. is this really how you want your Pet Shop Boys albums to end ?

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#435 Post by Gabby »

MikeyC wrote:
Sat 25 Jan 2020, 1:15 am
Wedding in Berlin is best appreciated when you go into it as “WTF???” 🤪
I love this fun, bizarre closer!!
I'm with you on this. I like my PSB to be a little bit bonkers sometimes. I have literally no problem with this as the album closer.

In fact the whole album is a triumph imho.

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