After all this time, the rumour between PSB and Robbie...

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#46 Post by Zeus On The Loose »

joncool5 wrote: Release was a bit M.O.R but I don't think Robbie has released a song that had the depth and loud guitars of Birthday Boy. Most the songs you mention are a bit M.O.R, She's The One is dull but wasn't his song, so that doesn't count. I'm not a big fan of chart music so my opinion on Robbie is bound to be different to yours.
What's the depth of Birthday Boy? It's a generic M.O.R rock ballad with cliched rhymes. You're trying to establish PSB as a credible act (which of course they are) by name dropping one of their least original tracks of their least credible album! *No* band with PSB as an influence will ever be influenced by Birthday Boy. West End Girls, It's A Sin, Rent, Being Boring etc. yes, but not anything post Very.

I don't understand what do you mean by chart music. PSB are chart music, just flop chart music, these days.
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#47 Post by joncool5 »

There's chart music and there's chart music...An obscure indie band could make number 40 but you wouldn't consider it chart music.

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joncool5 wrote:There's chart music and there's chart music...An obscure indie band could make number 40 but you wouldn't consider it chart music.
Chart music is not necessarily music that does well in the charts. It's music that is released by more often than not a major label with commercial success in mind.

Going by your logic, a record by a Pop Idol runner up that flops isn't chart music.
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#49 Post by joncool5 »

In general terms chart music means pop music so if Geri Halliwell releases a single that reaches 36 its chart music while if Blur release a single that goes to number 2 you wouldn't necessarily say "I like chart music". I like pop music when it's good but there aren't many pop artists at the moment that are much cop and Robbie is no different.

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joncool5 wrote:In general terms chart music means pop music so if Geri Halliwell releases a single that reaches 36 its chart music while if Blur release a single that goes to number 2 you wouldn't necessarily say "I like chart music". I like pop music when it's good but there aren't many pop artists at the moment that are much cop and Robbie is no different.
Chart music doesn't mean pop music at all, not to mention that 'pop music' is a general term that is defined but what is popular at a given moment.

Chart music at the moment is Coldplay, Keane, Dido, James Blunt, Gorillaz etc. Someone who likes acts such as those definitely likes chart music.
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#51 Post by Janet Street-Porter »

I love Birthday boy; it's a fantastic memento mori.

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Zeus On The Loose wrote:
joncool5 wrote:In general terms chart music means pop music so if Geri Halliwell releases a single that reaches 36 its chart music while if Blur release a single that goes to number 2 you wouldn't necessarily say "I like chart music". I like pop music when it's good but there aren't many pop artists at the moment that are much cop and Robbie is no different.
Chart music doesn't mean pop music at all, not to mention that 'pop music' is a general term that is defined but what is popular at a given moment.

Chart music at the moment is Coldplay, Keane, Dido, James Blunt, Gorillaz etc. Someone who likes acts such as those definitely likes chart music.
All the acts you mention are both pop music and chart music (and awful except Gorillaz). Beg to differ...

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#53 Post by Zeus On The Loose »

They are pop music by the standards of the moment. However, they are not the same genre as e.g Rachel Stevens or Geri.
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