knowing or not knowing an muslims personally is of no help to me. we succesfully have peaceful muslims in america, as by and large they tend to assimilate to our western culture. my opinions are just as valid about them overall as 9/11 did in fact happen and america does have a target on its back via islamic fundies so my views on them are realistic.you're discounting alot of real stuff and calling me racist for not going along with the raggatwin/gregf john lennon style bed in for peace in face of a real threat.raggatwin wrote:glennjridge wrote:I dont know why western people are so happy about these protests. there seems to be confusion with muslims about who is a real muslim and who isnt. as long as they have that problem the ones who are willing to be the most violent will win out.so it will start off alright and then the radical fundamentalists will seep in an take over silencing the moderates.[/quote)
Do you know any muslims, on what evidence do you base your comments?.
You don't know till you know.
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yep, most definitely.
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Greg might be a pacifist, i dont know. I certainly am not.glennjridge wrote:knowing or not knowing an muslims personally is of no help to me. we succesfully have peaceful muslims in america, as by and large they tend to assimilate to our western culture. my opinions are just as valid about them overall as 9/11 did in fact happen and america does have a target on its back via islamic fundies so my views on them are realistic.you're discounting alot of real stuff and calling me racist for not going along with the raggatwin/gregf john lennon style bed in for peace in face of a real threat.raggatwin wrote:glennjridge wrote:I dont know why western people are so happy about these protests. there seems to be confusion with muslims about who is a real muslim and who isnt. as long as they have that problem the ones who are willing to be the most violent will win out.so it will start off alright and then the radical fundamentalists will seep in an take over silencing the moderates.[/quote)
Do you know any muslims, on what evidence do you base your comments?.
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Violence should be defensive rather than offensive. America's violence is offensive and is in the. 'spirit of the monroe doctrine.
One againm I am not a pacifist, some people need a good kicking.'
One againm I am not a pacifist, some people need a good kicking.'
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The revolt in Libya is spreading. Benghazi is still rebel held,
diplomats are switching to the rebels and it has spread to Tripoli.
I think it is hard to make a case for pacifism since WW2.
diplomats are switching to the rebels and it has spread to Tripoli.
I think it is hard to make a case for pacifism since WW2.
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We had an interview tonight where a London based Libyan says
Gadafi is prepping his plane, loaded with gold, to fly out in the next
24 hours to Zimbabwe.
Gadafi is prepping his plane, loaded with gold, to fly out in the next
24 hours to Zimbabwe.
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Excellent. Let's kill two birds with one stone, and get rid of Mugabe as well.gregf wrote:We had an interview tonight where a London based Libyan says
Gadafi is prepping his plane, loaded with gold, to fly out in the next
24 hours to Zimbabwe.
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Agreed. I would love to see Mugabe go.
I feel very sorry for the people of Zimbabwe that that
power sharing agreement was foisted on them.
South African leadership, helping Mugabe, was appalling.
I feel very sorry for the people of Zimbabwe that that
power sharing agreement was foisted on them.
South African leadership, helping Mugabe, was appalling.
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Much later .....
Monday 22nd August 2011.
Tripoli has fallen to the rebels. Gadafi's son arrested. I wonder where the old bastard is hiding...
Also, I must say, I hope the people of Syria will soon be free also.
Monday 22nd August 2011.
Tripoli has fallen to the rebels. Gadafi's son arrested. I wonder where the old bastard is hiding...
Also, I must say, I hope the people of Syria will soon be free also.
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is Tony going to meet his old pal, if he gets out. The rebels should hand back that 'terminally ill' Lockerbie bloke to Scottish authorities
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I've got most of the compilations in the series and they are fantastic. The Horse Meat Disco ones are excellent as wellraggatwin wrote:
Can recommned Disco Discharge - Euro Beats. Just got it home , not bad, Italo Euro Disco type stuff
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Libya promised France 35% crude oil
Liberation newspaper published a copy of a letter in Arabic from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Libya, the forerunner to the rebels' council, addressed to Qatar, in which the rebels apparently refer to a deal to give 35 per cent of Libya's crude to France in return for supporting the rebellion.
The letter, which was dated April 3, two weeks after the start of the military intervention in support of the rebels that France had championed, said the deal was struck with France "during the London summit".
An international conference on the conflict in Libya was held in London on March 29.
France's foreign ministry told Liberation it had no knowledge of the existence of the letter.
A TNC representative was not immediately available to confirm the existence of such a letter.
French oil giant Total is one of several players in the Libyan oil market. The biggest oil producer in Libya is Italy's Eni.
Eni and Total have been tipped to emerge as the biggest winners in the post-Gaddafi era, given the strong support shown by their countries for the rebels.
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Liberation newspaper published a copy of a letter in Arabic from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Libya, the forerunner to the rebels' council, addressed to Qatar, in which the rebels apparently refer to a deal to give 35 per cent of Libya's crude to France in return for supporting the rebellion.
The letter, which was dated April 3, two weeks after the start of the military intervention in support of the rebels that France had championed, said the deal was struck with France "during the London summit".
An international conference on the conflict in Libya was held in London on March 29.
France's foreign ministry told Liberation it had no knowledge of the existence of the letter.
A TNC representative was not immediately available to confirm the existence of such a letter.
French oil giant Total is one of several players in the Libyan oil market. The biggest oil producer in Libya is Italy's Eni.
Eni and Total have been tipped to emerge as the biggest winners in the post-Gaddafi era, given the strong support shown by their countries for the rebels.
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