But it's OK mate, I know the point you're trying to make, you're using freedom of speech to tell me that you don't agree in my right for freedom of speech here and that by me disagreeing with that I am therefore a hypocrite. I like it, it's Einsteinesque in it's complexity. You deserve a good pat on the back for it. Well done!dynamobjornen wrote:That you are a hypocrite.JSDOUVRES wrote:Erm, don't quite get what your trying to prove there to be honestdynamobjornen wrote:
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So anything else dynamobjornen?dynamobjornen wrote:That you are a hypocrite.JSDOUVRES wrote:Erm, don't quite get what your trying to prove there to be honestdynamobjornen wrote:
You seem to have done the usual name calling thing, been found out then ran away.
I really am curious as to exactly what you tried to gain in what you posted?
I am pretty sure I worked you out as in my last post but being that I am a fair person I am more than willing to give you a chance to explain yourself.
Should I hold my breath????
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Your idea of Freedom of Speech is to hurl insults at people who disagree with you. There's a mature way of discussing things where there are disagreements but its all done respectfully, and then there's your way which is to insult everyone who disagrees with you. I gotta admire your persistence. You name call but don't run away.
People are worried about the uncertain future. What do you do? You bully them, insult them, name call them and you got a little gang hanging around with you to reinforce it. Does it make you feel good?
People are worried about the uncertain future. What do you do? You bully them, insult them, name call them and you got a little gang hanging around with you to reinforce it. Does it make you feel good?
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Without wanting to insult you of course but are you blind? A little gang hanging around me? Have you not seen the abuse I've been subjected to by a large number of people? Or do you choose to ignore that as you are part of their "gang" and not mine?ZiggyPSB wrote:Your idea of Freedom of Speech is to hurl insults at people who disagree with you. There's a mature way of discussing things where there are disagreements but its all done respectfully, and then there's your way which is to insult everyone who disagrees with you. I gotta admire your persistence. You name call but don't run away.
People are worried about the uncertain future. What do you do? You bully them, insult them, name call them and you got a little gang hanging around with you to reinforce it. Does it make you feel good?
I don't bully, I fight my corner and stick up for what I believe, refusing to back down and refusing to agree with other people's nonsense does not make me a bully! Incredible accusation to make!
And to be absolutely clear, I'd be a million times more worried about our future if we had voted to stay in the EU rather than leave. Although somehow people seem to think it is all a big fantastic success! Are people that deluded? I believe in Britain, I don't believe in Europe, I don't believe in Greece, Spain, Poland, Romania, Germany etc etc etc and why should I, they are all failing miserably and we are picking up the pieces and are being pulled in!
You are free to disagree with me and I have no problem at all with that but that but don't pick on me because of it and call me the bully. It doesn't work like that. And try practising what you preech. And your lack of faith in Britain is a real shame and one I seriously don't understand and never will but that is me and I make no apologies for that. Thank you.
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Freedom of speech. That only means the government won't arrest you for what you say, it doesn't mean private web sites have to give everyone a forum to say whatever they want. If whoever runs this place thought the conversation was off the rails and shut it down that's their prerogative. You can call it censorship but it's hardly a violation of anyone's free speech.
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Disco 2 it is then.West 4th wrote:Freedom of speech. That only means the government won't arrest you for what you say, it doesn't mean private web sites have to give everyone a forum to say whatever they want. If whoever runs this place thought the conversation was off the rails and shut it down that's their prerogative. You can call it censorship but it's hardly a violation of anyone's free speech.
Censorship by the way certainly is a violation of free speech, just ask those in North korea and countries such as that. And when I say free speech I mean free speech not free hate speech. They are totally different things although people (the liberal left) will try their hardest to make any and everything "hate" speech now if they do not agree with it. Just look at the recent referendum. Once again the race card has been brought out by those that have no other argument to support their wishes for mass uncontrolled immigration into Britain most of which does not effect them of course although thankfully the millions of people it does effect finally had the right to an opinion on it and certainly did so. It is quite shocking and pathetic but thankfully despite all this "hate" speech by the liberal left we are leaving the EU and and they are finally being found out for the damaging and dangerous force they are. Without question or doubt the liberal left have done far more damage to Britain than the far right ever possibly could, simply because they use fear and smear tactics to shut down and silence any debate on matters that actually matter a lot to many people. Look at certain members reaction to me on here? Quite disgusting and most don't actually have any valid points to make at all as their only aim is to shut me down and stop me saying what we all know to be true. That is where we are at. And it is scary. The referendum is just the start of putting this right. And although there are hard times ahead and much more hate to be spread from the liberal left we will get there.
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Eid Mubarak.
Passion, love, sex, money, violence, religion, injustice and death. More on that story later.
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EU Referendum topic part 2, just as I thought.
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No it's not, it's not a public space, it's a private website.JSDOUVRES wrote:Disco 2 it is then.West 4th wrote:Freedom of speech. That only means the government won't arrest you for what you say, it doesn't mean private web sites have to give everyone a forum to say whatever they want. If whoever runs this place thought the conversation was off the rails and shut it down that's their prerogative. You can call it censorship but it's hardly a violation of anyone's free speech.
Censorship by the way certainly is a violation of free speech, just ask those in North korea and countries such as that. And when I say free speech I mean free speech not free hate speech. They are totally different things although people (the liberal left) will try their hardest to make any and everything "hate" speech now if they do not agree with it. Just look at the recent referendum. Once again the race card has been brought out by those that have no other argument to support their wishes for mass uncontrolled immigration into Britain most of which does not effect them of course although thankfully the millions of people it does effect finally had the right to an opinion on it and certainly did so. It is quite shocking and pathetic but thankfully despite all this "hate" speech by the liberal left we are leaving the EU and and they are finally being found out for the damaging and dangerous force they are. Without question or doubt the liberal left have done far more damage to Britain than the far right ever possibly could, simply because they use fear and smear tactics to shut down and silence any debate on matters that actually matter a lot to many people. Look at certain members reaction to me on here? Quite disgusting and most don't actually have any valid points to make at all as their only aim is to shut me down and stop me saying what we all know to be true. That is where we are at. And it is scary. The referendum is just the start of putting this right. And although there are hard times ahead and much more hate to be spread from the liberal left we will get there.
People need to stop conflating freedom of speech as "I can say whatever I want wherever I want and there won't be any consequences."
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So please what can or can't I say?West 4th wrote:No it's not, it's not a public space, it's a private website.JSDOUVRES wrote:Disco 2 it is then.West 4th wrote:Freedom of speech. That only means the government won't arrest you for what you say, it doesn't mean private web sites have to give everyone a forum to say whatever they want. If whoever runs this place thought the conversation was off the rails and shut it down that's their prerogative. You can call it censorship but it's hardly a violation of anyone's free speech.
Censorship by the way certainly is a violation of free speech, just ask those in North korea and countries such as that. And when I say free speech I mean free speech not free hate speech. They are totally different things although people (the liberal left) will try their hardest to make any and everything "hate" speech now if they do not agree with it. Just look at the recent referendum. Once again the race card has been brought out by those that have no other argument to support their wishes for mass uncontrolled immigration into Britain most of which does not effect them of course although thankfully the millions of people it does effect finally had the right to an opinion on it and certainly did so. It is quite shocking and pathetic but thankfully despite all this "hate" speech by the liberal left we are leaving the EU and and they are finally being found out for the damaging and dangerous force they are. Without question or doubt the liberal left have done far more damage to Britain than the far right ever possibly could, simply because they use fear and smear tactics to shut down and silence any debate on matters that actually matter a lot to many people. Look at certain members reaction to me on here? Quite disgusting and most don't actually have any valid points to make at all as their only aim is to shut me down and stop me saying what we all know to be true. That is where we are at. And it is scary. The referendum is just the start of putting this right. And although there are hard times ahead and much more hate to be spread from the liberal left we will get there.
People need to stop conflating freedom of speech as "I can say whatever I want wherever I want and there won't be any consequences."
Who makes the rules?
What are the rules?
Is your post above "acceptable"?
I'm really interested to know.
Political correctness really has gone mad hasn't it? Hilarious!!!
