Undertow to be released as next single

For general discussion of Pet Shop Boys topics.
Post Reply
Message
Author
User avatar
daveid
Posts: 3909
Joined: Sat 11 Feb 2006, 8:38 am
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#31 Post by daveid »

Old Soak wrote: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 4:54 pm Undertow sleeve is very similar to New Order's Blue Monday 1988
Indeed
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Gabby
Posts: 2446
Joined: Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:31 pm
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#32 Post by Gabby »

daveid wrote: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 6:38 pm
Old Soak wrote: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 4:54 pm Undertow sleeve is very similar to New Order's Blue Monday 1988
Indeed
It's a water vortex, like you see when water goes down the plughole. The colours make it look like the Blue Monday cover and maybe that's intentional, but I think overall the concept makes sense.

User avatar
Gabby
Posts: 2446
Joined: Sun 17 Jan 2016, 5:31 pm
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#33 Post by Gabby »

Remark wrote: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 10:11 am
Tom Angel wrote: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 9:31 am Tuff city kids could be a great choice of remix

they have that similar italo disco feel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh2e04DNDeE

excited
Been listening to Tuff City Kids remixes on Soundcloud this morning...they all sound pretty damn good. Actually I could hear them remixing Burn more than Undertow based on their sound. This Baba Stiltz character though sounds a bit more concerning. Almost everything I've heard on Soundcloud sounds tooooo dubbbbby, down groove, or minimal tech... something that Burn does not need. Oh dear. I've been praying for remixes to Burn and now that we have at least 1, I hope it doesn't fail. Baba's sound is not giving me hope. :cry:
Tuff City Kids sounds great - excited for their remix

Listening to this and not hugely enthused about what's in store for the Burn remix either : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ld7qWND3bM

I don't mind this on it's own terms, but if that's where we're headed for the Burn remix, it could be a real yawn-a-thon. Even Baba doesn't look partcularly enthusiastic does he? :pray:

User avatar
Debussy
Posts: 856
Joined: Thu 30 Oct 2003, 8:06 pm

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#34 Post by Debussy »

Gerd Jansen is one half of Tuff City Kids and a very well respected and excellent house producer and awesome DJ so I'm delighted with that choice.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk


User avatar
df118junkie
Posts: 891
Joined: Thu 30 Oct 2003, 5:04 am

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#35 Post by df118junkie »

Gabby wrote: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 9:00 pm
Remark wrote: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 10:11 am
Tom Angel wrote: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 9:31 am Tuff city kids could be a great choice of remix

they have that similar italo disco feel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh2e04DNDeE

excited
Been listening to Tuff City Kids remixes on Soundcloud this morning...they all sound pretty damn good. Actually I could hear them remixing Burn more than Undertow based on their sound. This Baba Stiltz character though sounds a bit more concerning. Almost everything I've heard on Soundcloud sounds tooooo dubbbbby, down groove, or minimal tech... something that Burn does not need. Oh dear. I've been praying for remixes to Burn and now that we have at least 1, I hope it doesn't fail. Baba's sound is not giving me hope. :cry:
Tuff City Kids sounds great - excited for their remix

Listening to this and not hugely enthused about what's in store for the Burn remix either : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ld7qWND3bM

I don't mind this on it's own terms, but if that's where we're headed for the Burn remix, it could be a real yawn-a-thon. Even Baba doesn't look partcularly enthusiastic does he? :pray:
I fear the Baba Stiltz remix will be dull and monotonous. The Tuff City Kids should be remixing Burn, and BS for Undertow (which I find boring anyway).

User avatar
ChoonHound
Posts: 2311
Joined: Thu 29 Dec 2005, 6:47 pm
Contact:

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#36 Post by ChoonHound »

I like a lot of the Tuff City productions. I even like some of Baba's. Even sill, I'm not optimistic about either remix. Fingers crossed....
I sincerely *love* Disco 2 and listen to it straight through regularly.

User avatar
Gary1962
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon 10 Sep 2012, 6:39 pm

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#37 Post by Gary1962 »

They should have released "Undertow" as the first single off "Super".
If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear
If you've something to hide, you shouldn't even be here!

User avatar
Greendrake
Posts: 855
Joined: Wed 29 Oct 2003, 5:56 pm

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#38 Post by Greendrake »


The content of this post has been reserved by the author due to the unprecedented, categorical and peremptory exercise of censorship that took place on 20 May 2021.

Whereas this content can be restored, the author neither intends to do so, nor to publish any further posts to avoid any possible perception as "passive agressive", "pointless", "unhelpful", "homophobic" or "bigoted".
Last edited by Greendrake on Fri 21 May 2021, 2:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Nickname
Posts: 7893
Joined: Thu 30 Oct 2003, 2:52 pm

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#39 Post by Nickname »

Greendrake wrote: Mon 13 Feb 2017, 9:39 am
Gary1962 wrote: Mon 13 Feb 2017, 9:28 am They should have released "Undertow" as the first single off "Super".
Can't agree more!
In fact it looked like they considered to do so. At least one of the "What is SUPER?" campaign snippets was the magnificent Undertow intro tune (which, regrettably, is a bit shadowed in the album version).
I think the same too.

User avatar
Drem
Posts: 1571
Joined: Thu 09 Jun 2005, 9:24 am
Contact:

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#40 Post by Drem »

Yeah, "The Pop Kids" was a safe choice, a nostalgia-driven sure hit, but "Undertow" could become an attack single.
"I think it’s an amazingly good album, I’ve got to be honest with you. It’s one of the albums I feel most proud of. But for people who don’t really know us, and have a sort of an idea about us, ‘Electric’ is more what the Pet Shop Boys are meant to be."
(Neil Tennant, speaking about "Elysium" on the eve of "Electric" release.)

User avatar
retrofuturist
Posts: 4093
Joined: Mon 08 May 2006, 12:31 am
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#41 Post by retrofuturist »

Undertow is my favourite song from Super. I can understand why The Pop Kids was the first single, but for me this would have been the immediate follow-up. Good to see it's "sort of" getting a single release in the end, but it reminds me of "Integral" in the sense of being a "late, sort of single" which would have had a much bigger impact if released during the album campaign, rather than after the event.
"Politics are too emotional now. Contemporary culture generally is too emotional, really... I'd rather people looked to the truth." (Neil Tennant)

User avatar
Dog
Posts: 3856
Joined: Thu 30 Oct 2003, 10:41 pm
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#42 Post by Dog »

retrofuturist wrote:Undertow is my favourite song from Super. I can understand why The Pop Kids was the first single, but for me this would have been the immediate follow-up. Good to see it's "sort of" getting a single release in the end, but it reminds me of "Integral" in the sense of being a "late, sort of single" which would have had a much bigger impact if released during the album campaign, rather than after the event.
Integral would have been a fantastic first single.
Woof.

User avatar
Drico One
Posts: 6223
Joined: Tue 16 Sep 2003, 8:56 pm
Has thanked: 45 times
Contact:

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#43 Post by Drico One »

Integral was the biggest single omission of the last decade (or so) and arguably of their career. It should have led Fundamental. It was clearly the best track on the album. I don't care if it sounded like 1984 - that was the point. And it wasn't as if I'm with Stupid - which I really have a soft spot for - didn't sound like 1985. I also think Undertow is a standout track on Super, though I think The Pop Kids is a bit of a classic.

Fugitive, of course, is another missed single, but that was less obvious than Integral in some ways. Then again, I take the view that A Different Point of View, It Always Comes as a Surprise, and This Must Be The Place I Waited Years to Leave should have been singles in the 1990s, so it's all opinions.

Drico.
The pale kid that hides in the attic behind his PC...

User avatar
Dog
Posts: 3856
Joined: Thu 30 Oct 2003, 10:41 pm
Been thanked: 1 time
Contact:

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#44 Post by Dog »

Drico One wrote:Integral was the biggest single omission of the last decade (or so) and arguably of their career. It should have led Fundamental. It was clearly the best track on the album. I don't care if it sounded like 1984 - that was the point. And it wasn't as if I'm with Stupid - which I really have a soft spot for - didn't sound like 1985. I also think Undertow is a standout track on Super, though I think The Pop Kids is a bit of a classic.

Fugitive, of course, is another missed single, but that was less obvious than Integral in some ways. Then again, I take the view that A Different Point of View, It Always Comes as a Surprise, and This Must Be The Place I Waited Years to Leave should have been singles in the 1990s, so it's all opinions.

Drico.
Yes, they'd all have been good releases.

Other than overlooking Integral, I've think their single choices have been pretty good over the years. I remember thinking it odd that Seriously was given a downtempo remix for single release, when it was one of only a few uptempo tracks on Behaviour.

I'd have liked to have seen full releases for London and All Over The World... And Undertow for that matter. And A Face Like That would have made a great single too.
Woof.

User avatar
Pod
Posts: 2848
Joined: Wed 27 May 2015, 11:07 pm
Contact:

Re: Undertow to be released as next single

#45 Post by Pod »

I know there were many singles from Very, but I always thought 'a different point of view' should have been a single. I also used to think 'somebody else's business' had a certain single quality too.
Just for the sake of it, make sure you're always frowning. :|
It shows the world that you've got substance and depth.

Post Reply