Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless

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#331 Post by Patrick Bateman »

Indubitably of their finest songs (on some days, their best), as shown by it still sounding great whether covered by Carter USM, Liza or karaoke style in Saltburn. I assume it started life as one of the sleaze tracks they mention in the Imagine documentary but the slower tempo of the Actually version allows the contradictory emotions of the protagonist to be expressed with more time and space - notably shown in Saltburn as the character has an epiphany in real time.

Extra credit for Neil's 'driving' in the video and trolling Tubs Tarbuck.

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telys wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 8:21 pm
leesmapman wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 6:31 pm It's also one of the best extended mixes of PSB tracks. The CD single is a great collection of tracks, with the extended mix, dub and the "I want a dog" b-side. First CD single I bought of PSB, I just remember. I got It's a sin and What have I done... on tape from a classmate.
I got the CD-maxi at a later stage, I already had Rent on Actually and Discography (but I got them before Alternative so it must've been 93/94) so it was nice to get the mixes, which are really good.
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They had some great remixer names at the start of their career ! Shep Pettibone, Francois Kervokian, Julian Mendelsohn, Arthur Barker.

It just made it even more magical for me !

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Pinhead44 wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 9:13 pm
telys wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 8:21 pm
leesmapman wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 6:31 pm It's also one of the best extended mixes of PSB tracks. The CD single is a great collection of tracks, with the extended mix, dub and the "I want a dog" b-side. First CD single I bought of PSB, I just remember. I got It's a sin and What have I done... on tape from a classmate.
I got the CD-maxi at a later stage, I already had Rent on Actually and Discography (but I got them before Alternative so it must've been 93/94) so it was nice to get the mixes, which are really good.
Kevorkian is an armenian surnamn btw.
They had some great remixer names at the start of their career ! Shep Pettibone, Francois Kevorkian, Julian Mendelsohn, Arthur Baker.

It just made it even more magical for me !

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#335 Post by MikeyC »

Rent is fine. Never one of my favorites nor a highlight in their discography (IMO). x

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Patrick Bateman wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 9:03 pm Indubitably of their finest songs (on some days, their best), as shown by it still sounding great whether covered by Carter USM, Liza or karaoke style in Saltburn. I assume it started life as one of the sleaze tracks they mention in the Imagine documentary but the slower tempo of the Actually version allows the contradictory emotions of the protagonist to be expressed with more time and space - notably shown in Saltburn as the character has an epiphany in real time.

Extra credit for Neil's 'driving' in the video and trolling Tubs Tarbuck.
Sadly here in the US, EMI America refused to release the song as a single because their marketing department thought it was about a (gay) male prostitute and they were afraid the record buying public would never buy a PSB single or album again.

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I’m criss-crossing threads here but Rent was an instant classic for me.

I almost wore my copy of Actually out with the amount of times I would rewind and play it. The audio quality was absolutely terrible on the little tape player I had but that didn’t take anything away from me loving this song.

Deceptively simple but all the more impressive because of that - no distractions, just pure heartfelt beauty. I still think it’s one of the best songs of all time.

Agreed with previous comments about the extended remixes - esp the Francois Kervorkian remixes.
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A perfect pop song about love and compromise.
Aside from Bobby O demo there is also XFM version from 2003 which reveals the original Hi-NRG nature of this song - check it out.

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#339 Post by retrofuturist »

Greetings,

It's nice to have a song that's been performed by my 2 favourite artists. If you've not heard Carter USM's cover, as name-checked in the liner notes of Discography, take a listen... but don't expect it to sound similar!

Retro. :)
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spacewalker wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 11:17 pm A perfect pop song about love and compromise.
Aside from Bobby O demo there is also XFM version from 2003 which reveals the original Hi-NRG nature of this song - check it out.
And we shouldn't forget about Haçienda 1992. That version had the highest energy for me. :dance:
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spacewalker wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 11:17 pm A perfect pop song about love and compromise.
Aside from Bobby O demo there is also XFM version from 2003 which reveals the original Hi-NRG nature of this song - check it out.
That version gives us a glimpse of how the Bobby O 1984 album would've sounded like.
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retrofuturist wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024, 2:29 am Greetings,

It's nice to have a song that's been performed by my 2 favourite artists. If you've not heard Carter USM's cover, as name-checked in the liner notes of Discography, take a listen... but don't expect it to sound similar!

Retro. :)
Huge Carter fan here too. Loving Jim Bobs latest solo album.
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#343 Post by PopKid78 »

tottenhammattspurs wrote:
retrofuturist wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024, 2:29 am Greetings,

It's nice to have a song that's been performed by my 2 favourite artists. If you've not heard Carter USM's cover, as name-checked in the liner notes of Discography, take a listen... but don't expect it to sound similar!

Retro. :)
Huge Carter fan here too. Loving Jim Bobs latest solo album.
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domino wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024, 8:33 am
spacewalker wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 11:17 pm A perfect pop song about love and compromise.
Aside from Bobby O demo there is also XFM version from 2003 which reveals the original Hi-NRG nature of this song - check it out.
And we shouldn't forget about Haçienda 1992. That version had the highest energy for me. :dance:
Never heard that version . Is it similar to XFM version..?
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Tom Angel wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024, 6:01 pm
domino wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024, 8:33 am
spacewalker wrote: Wed 17 Apr 2024, 11:17 pm A perfect pop song about love and compromise.
Aside from Bobby O demo there is also XFM version from 2003 which reveals the original Hi-NRG nature of this song - check it out.
And we shouldn't forget about Haçienda 1992. That version had the highest energy for me. :dance:
Never heard that version . Is it similar to XFM version..?
A little bit, maybe with a bit more drum kicks, orchestral stabs and JJ Belle on guitar. You can hear it here from 05:30 to 08:32:

https://m.mixcloud.com/heejune-park/pet ... 13-may-92/
A blues would be in B flat, pain defining wisdom,
but the soul is in the high hat, programmed in the system.

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