Go West Dreamworld dispute
- Future Lover
- Posts: 1157
- Joined: Mon 14 Jul 2014, 1:04 am
- Contact:
- oakey
- Posts: 686
- Joined: Sat 27 Apr 2013, 5:07 pm
- Contact:
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
Let's hope the Dreamworld Live bluray gets released soon, with or without Go West. TBH I would not really care if GW would not be included. Of course, for completists it is nice to have the original full version of this release and it is a bit annoying that some copies were made available, but not feeding this Willis troll anymore (either with money or the power of control over this cover version) is more important in my view.
And PSB's GW is certainly overplayed, so I will not miss it. That said, they (PSB) really own their version of GW and made the song big anyway (before 1992, it was completely overshadowed by the other Village People hits. I frequented gay clubs at the time, and other VP songs were played regularly, but I was not familiar with GW until PSB covered it and it was included in Priscilla Queen of the desert).
And PSB's GW is certainly overplayed, so I will not miss it. That said, they (PSB) really own their version of GW and made the song big anyway (before 1992, it was completely overshadowed by the other Village People hits. I frequented gay clubs at the time, and other VP songs were played regularly, but I was not familiar with GW until PSB covered it and it was included in Priscilla Queen of the desert).
-
joepsb
- Posts: 633
- Joined: Fri 13 Jan 2006, 7:12 pm
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
Blu ray ?NotInvisible wrote: Sat 08 Nov 2025, 2:31 am The withdrawn release is available online if you know where to look. Anyone who wants the full tracklist in their digital collection can have it without too much trouble.
- leesmapman
- Posts: 3570
- Joined: Wed 03 May 2006, 11:51 am
- Been thanked: 3 times
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
Some of the TV broadcasts are complete, so you can watch Go West there if you want to..
The completist in me feels much pain though.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-A528B met Tapatalk
The completist in me feels much pain though.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-A528B met Tapatalk
-
Morphas
- Posts: 24
- Joined: Sat 02 Aug 2025, 12:10 am
- Contact:
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
I guess the Boys have plenty of reasons to 'take' Go west as their own: it was them who catapulted this song worldwide (at least to this Brazilian 10yo-boy back then).Dog wrote: Sat 25 Oct 2025, 10:50 am It’s likely it’s along the lines of this. The other thing which Neil has said more recently is that he sometimes forgets that their version of Go West is a cover version.
There are some other songs which took me a while to understand that they weren't originals. These cover songs may not be so obvious to many of us, ordinary fans:
What keeps mankind alive?
If love were all
Break 4 love
Try it (I'm in love with a married man)
My girl
I cried for us
Glad all over
The last to die
Se a vida é
Some obvious covers also include:
Always on my mind
Where the streets have no name / I can't take my eyes off you
Girls & Boys
Somewhere
Je t'aime... moi non plus
Viva la vida
I started a joke
The dark end of the street
All the young dudes
Miserere
We're the Pet Shop Boys
And there are algo some songs whose instrumental parts, or guitar-reefs, or melodies, were sampled or re-recorded for PSB songs (in brackets):
Ennio Morricone's "Forecast" (it couldn't happen here)
Barry White's "Your the first, the last, my everything" (Positive role model)
The fire's "Father's name is dead" (I didn't get where I am today)
Henry Purcell's King Arthur's "Cupid What Ho" (Love is a gorgeous construct)
I made a playlist trying to include some originals altogether.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4fZY3 ... m6RxTToCL2
If anybody knows more to add - or even correct - please speak out!
PS: what if the Boys put out another 'obscure' show with all covers entitled somehow like "Back to NOT mine" ?! Maybe they could thus demonstrate to some "who'd take a bullet for Narcissus" that there are no reasons to Go any more West than they've already gone.
Let's enjoy it all while it lasts.
- Sexy Northeasterner
- Posts: 3
- Joined: Wed 12 Nov 2025, 8:06 pm
- Contact:
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
I was at Hardwick Festival earlier this year and they didn’t perform Go West so this explains it.
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
I don’t think Go west was part of the festival setlist from the beginning. They didn’t perform it on the co-headlining Unity Tour either. x
- nonesuch
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Wed 10 Jul 2024, 1:58 pm
- Contact:
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
I believe we've passed the 21 day deadline (from Oct. 22) for Willis to file an amended complaint. No sign of anything yet...
- nonesuch
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Wed 10 Jul 2024, 1:58 pm
- Contact:
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
It turns out she did refile and the case is still ongoing. There's a breakdown here for anyone who speaks legalese:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/cas ... nant_et_al
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/cas ... nant_et_al
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
1. Karen Willis) is suing Neil Tennant, Chris Lowe, and Warner Musicnonesuch wrote:It turns out she did refile and the case is still ongoing. There's a breakdown here for anyone who speaks legalese:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/cas ... nant_et_al
She claims they infringed her copyright.
She is representing herself (called pro se), which often leads to procedural complications.
2. The case has mostly been about paperwork, not the actual claims
Before a court even looks at whether the claim is true, the plaintiff must:
• File the complaint correctly
• Serve the defendants correctly
• Establish that the court has jurisdiction
• State a legally valid claim
Most of the docket so far is about whether she did those things properly.
3. The defendants filed a Motion to Dismiss
Neil, Chris, and Warner Music asked the judge to throw the case out.
Their arguments likely include:
• She didn’t serve them properly
• The court doesn’t have jurisdiction over them
• The complaint doesn’t state a valid legal claim
This is standard in cases like this.
4. A hearing was scheduled for 12 February 2026
This was supposed to be the day both sides would argue the Motion to Dismiss in front of the judge.
5. The judge cancelled the 12 February hearing
In plain English, the judge said:
“I’ve read everything. I don’t need a hearing. I’ll decide this myself.”
This is very normal. Judges often cancel hearings when they think oral argument won’t add anything.
6. The judge will now decide the Motion to Dismiss on paper
This means:
• No hearing
• No oral arguments
• The next thing that happens will be a written ruling
The ruling could:
• Dismiss the case entirely
• Dismiss parts of it
• Allow the case to continue
• Allow her to amend the complaint again
But until the judge issues that order, everything is in limbo.
7. Where things stand right now
• The case is not moving forward to evidence or trial.
• It is paused while the judge decides whether the lawsuit is even valid enough to continue.
• The 12 February date was simply the now‑cancelled hearing for that decision.
Woof.
- petshopgrrl
- Posts: 767
- Joined: Wed 03 Apr 2024, 7:03 am
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
He dismissed the previous case so he's heard all this shit before. Judge Todd W. Robinson has had enough.Dog wrote: Sat 31 Jan 2026, 6:36 pm 5. The judge cancelled the 12 February hearing
In plain English, the judge said:
“I’ve read everything. I don’t need a hearing. I’ll decide this myself.”
This is very normal. Judges often cancel hearings when they think oral argument won’t add anything.
For your own good, call me tonight.
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
Unfortunately, however this plays out the fact remains that Willis has still withdrawn the rights for them to use Go West in their work.
Woof.
- retrofuturist
- Posts: 4079
- Joined: Mon 08 May 2006, 12:31 am
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
Greetings Dog,
Do you know what consequence this could have for any existing or future compilations, or even for any re-issues of Very?
Retro.
Do you know what consequence this could have for any existing or future compilations, or even for any re-issues of Very?
Retro.
"Politics are too emotional now. Contemporary culture generally is too emotional, really... I'd rather people looked to the truth." (Neil Tennant)
-
TwizzleUK
- Posts: 694
- Joined: Fri 24 Feb 2006, 11:22 pm
Re: Go West Dreamworld dispute
Wonder if they'll skip 'Go West' when the digital singles re-release campaign finally happens?