Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless

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What if they also did a hidden pre-track you find rewinding before track 1?

A radio promo, or a single copy of Very somewhere in the world? Their best kept secret.

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markus wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 5:52 pm What if they also did a hidden pre-track you find rewinding before track 1?

A radio promo, or a single copy of Very somewhere in the world? Their best kept secret.
There's an X-Files CD like that, but it doesn't work on a lot of CD players. A clue was dropped in the liner notes "Nick Cave and the Dirty Three would like you to know that '0' is also a number". I remember thinking it was pretty cool at the time.

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Gabby wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 7:08 pm
markus wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 5:52 pm What if they also did a hidden pre-track you find rewinding before track 1?

A radio promo, or a single copy of Very somewhere in the world? Their best kept secret.
There's an X-Files CD like that, but it doesn't work on a lot of CD players. A clue was dropped in the liner notes "Nick Cave and the Dirty Three would like you to know that '0' is also a number". I remember thinking it was pretty cool at the time.
Cool. Mylene Farmer is the only I know of . The digital release added it as a single track (Ave Maria). Would be nice if...

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Track 75: Forever in love

Chronology: Very, Further Listening, Track 2

This is one of those tracks that I don't play that often - but it's one I always look forward to hearing, and when I do play it I am immediately returned to a very specific place and time. Now, the rules of this thread - while merely indicative - suggest we follow the Further Listening route through the catalogue. So, we jump past another version of Go West, which opens this particular interation of Further Listening, and past the entirety of Relentless (for now - the reissue will get its place in the sun later). However, I have to admit that the Relentless version of this highlight strikes me as far superior.

Forever in love was probably my favourite track on Relentless. I always was a sucker for a galloping beat and OTT drama. Moreover, we have a surreptitiously mysterious Neil in conspiratorial mode, setting an intriguing scene before we all self-combust in a quintessential and patented PSB "moment of ecstasy".

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I was looking forward to the fireworks show that would've been your (Drico) review of Go West.

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markus wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 8:10 pm I was looking forward to the fireworks show that would've been your (Drico) review of Go West.
You've already done that, though, and blown up the thread chronology in the process... :mrgreen:

I'll be honest: I think I have written enough about Go West in the past. I'm not sure there's much more to say about it beyond it being a moment of zeitgeist-touching pop genius. A fitting coda to their mainstream career.
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Drico One wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 8:17 pm
markus wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 8:10 pm I was looking forward to the fireworks show that would've been your (Drico) review of Go West.
You've already done that, though, and blown up the thread chronology in the process... :mrgreen:

I'll be honest: I think I have written enough about Go West in the past. I'm not sure there's much more to say about it beyond it being a moment of zeitgeist-touching pop genius. A fitting coda to their mainstream career.
Ok. We'll just all send your baby positive thoughts then.

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Is there a reason we skipped track 74 Go West?

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Fear of being sued by Karen Willis. 😬

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Gabby wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 7:08 pm
markus wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 5:52 pm What if they also did a hidden pre-track you find rewinding before track 1?

A radio promo, or a single copy of Very somewhere in the world? Their best kept secret.
There's an X-Files CD like that, but it doesn't work on a lot of CD players. A clue was dropped in the liner notes "Nick Cave and the Dirty Three would like you to know that '0' is also a number". I remember thinking it was pretty cool at the time.
Also on some editions of Kylie’s Light Years… the ‘hidden track’ Password appears by rewinding before the first song.

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Drico One wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 7:58 pmY'all ready?
Probably the best (and best-timed) sample in their discography. The bit followed by a crashing explosion of synths is one of those ecstatic moments that sets the hair on the back of your neck on end. Sublime. The Relentless version is one of the premiere songs in their discography.

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I completely agree that the Relentless version is the one! The bit by bit house build-up is anthemic. Let’s hope some Relentless stuff is played in the Obscure shows…
“Oblivious to the rain” is also a memorable line.

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Drico One wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 7:58 pm Track 75: Forever in love
Chronology: Very, Further Listening, Track 2

Y'all ready?
Yeah I'm ready! :dance:

I never tire of the Relentless tracks - they are my sad-weird-happy place. This one has a premise that's so simple but so raw and a couple of killer lines in "Radical, practical, quietly tactical" and "Critical, political, suddenly physical" (word play, yeahhhh!). It bips and bops along and the samples are complementary, not obtrusive.

Is this track 75 or 76, though? We gave Postscript the number 75 position, or should it be revised to 74.5?!
Lleonard Pler wrote: Thu 18 Dec 2025, 8:56 pm Is there a reason we skipped track 74 Go West?
We already covered it. Markus got a little overenthusiastic after To Speak Is A Sin:
markus wrote: Thu 27 Nov 2025, 9:01 am Track 74: "Go West"
Very: Further Listening, CD1, Track 12
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Forever In Love, what a banger. I love this track.

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petshopgrrl wrote: Fri 19 Dec 2025, 5:27 am We already covered it. Markus got a little overenthusiastic after To Speak Is A sin
It's stuck in my head since 32 years ago To speak is a sin is the last song before Go West. :wall:

I clicked Submit by accident even, the post wasn't finished.

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