Is This What We Want? - AI Protest album

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NotInvisible wrote: Fri 28 Feb 2025, 10:47 pm
glennjridge wrote: Thu 27 Feb 2025, 1:42 amMarkus is right...lack of talent is neither her nor there with AI.
If you can’t do it without AI you lack talent.
its the future.
I don’t doubt that - exploitation, enshittification and the rise of the talentless is the apogee of our cultural devolution.
I suspect you routinely use a spell checker and whatever program to do who knows what. I assume you know good grammar and can spell and do math and dont need it, but you've already dipped your toe in the waters. you've turned over aspects of your creativity to programs.

people have recreated whole scenes of Star Wars online, and it looks as good as the real movie. what you would call people with no talent....yet they have millions of views despite being only up a few weeks. it doesn't matter. you dont have to be George Lucas anymore with a multi million dollar budget and thousands of people on a crew. that's BETTER.

and I suspect your favorite bands are on them sly using it to create music. you wont ever know. you will just enjoy it.

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I've just ordered the limited edition vinyl version - there are still a few hanging around.
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glennjridge wrote: Sun 02 Mar 2025, 3:25 pm
NotInvisible wrote: Fri 28 Feb 2025, 10:47 pm
glennjridge wrote: Thu 27 Feb 2025, 1:42 amMarkus is right...lack of talent is neither her nor there with AI.
If you can’t do it without AI you lack talent.
its the future.
I don’t doubt that - exploitation, enshittification and the rise of the talentless is the apogee of our cultural devolution.
I suspect you routinely use a spell checker and whatever program to do who knows what. I assume you know good grammar and can spell and do math and dont need it, but you've already dipped your toe in the waters. you've turned over aspects of your creativity to programs.

people have recreated whole scenes of Star Wars online, and it looks as good as the real movie. what you would call people with no talent....yet they have millions of views despite being only up a few weeks. it doesn't matter. you dont have to be George Lucas anymore with a multi million dollar budget and thousands of people on a crew. that's BETTER.

and I suspect your favorite bands are on them sly using it to create music. you wont ever know. you will just enjoy it.
I suspect AI generated music is already being used in the mainstream, or in the case of some it’s being used openly. Look at Boy George’s recent pro-Israel song which he obviously didn’t realise people would notice was wholly AI generated.

I’m split on the use of AI. I think there’s a use for artists using it to plug gaps in songs when they’re struggling or using it for ideas around riffs or some basic patterns. I think it is likely that as AI apps continue to improve we’ll see it more and more insidious within the industry, which is a real pity and feels inevitable.

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tophalba33 wrote: Mon 31 Aug 2026, 2:58 pmI’m split on the use of AI. I think there’s a use for artists using it to plug gaps in songs when they’re struggling or using it for ideas around riffs or some basic patterns. I think it is likely that as AI apps continue to improve we’ll see it more and more insidious within the industry, which is a real pity and feels inevitable.
The difference between talent and AI is that when the power goes out, the talented can still make things.

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#50 Post by retrofuturist »

Greetings,
NotInvisible wrote: Mon 31 Aug 2026, 5:46 pm The difference between talent and AI is that when the power goes out, the talented can still make things.
Yes, but there's "Can You Forgive Her?" and then there's "Can You Forgive Her? (Swing Version)".

Retro. :)
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Screenshots showing artwork for the limited vinyl. I'll share a photo of the Pet Shop Boys credit on the sleeve when my copy arrives.
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