Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
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It's an ok update of a classic, made in a style that was hip at the time. I like when they do these sometimes (Violence, Left to my Own Devices, Furthermore EP, etc). Not an earth shattering track, but fun nonetheless.
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I don't mind when they change something to play it live for the 1,000th time but not bothered about them releasing them. Don't think I've ever played the bonus disc for Nonetheless.
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And That's my impression on Alternative and Please FL is in fact the disco mix.retrofuturist wrote: Wed 23 Sep 2026, 7:13 am Greetings,
These are kind of random tidbits I love about conversation here. I'd never have noticed or thought to check if they were different otherwise. On quick inspection it seems the original is an "early fade", whereas FL & Format seem to have gone for the fuller version from which the original b-side version was cut.daveid wrote: Tue 22 Sep 2026, 2:03 pm The slightly longer version on Release FL does slightly improved it btw
I noticed a similar quirk recently with The Boy Who Couldn't Keep His Clothes on. The original b-side version (aka "Main Vocal") is 20 seconds shorter than the "International Club Mix" which appears on Bilingual Remixed and has a different intro... and curiously, from that point in time on, both FL & Format appear to be using the International Club variant despite the absence of any specific mix labeling.
Anyhow.
Retro.![]()
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Is the 7" only available on CD on Essential?daveid wrote: Thu 24 Sep 2026, 4:38 pmAnd That's my impression on Alternative and Please FL is in fact the disco mix.retrofuturist wrote: Wed 23 Sep 2026, 7:13 am Greetings,
These are kind of random tidbits I love about conversation here. I'd never have noticed or thought to check if they were different otherwise. On quick inspection it seems the original is an "early fade", whereas FL & Format seem to have gone for the fuller version from which the original b-side version was cut.daveid wrote: Tue 22 Sep 2026, 2:03 pm The slightly longer version on Release FL does slightly improved it btw
I noticed a similar quirk recently with The Boy Who Couldn't Keep His Clothes on. The original b-side version (aka "Main Vocal") is 20 seconds shorter than the "International Club Mix" which appears on Bilingual Remixed and has a different intro... and curiously, from that point in time on, both FL & Format appear to be using the International Club variant despite the absence of any specific mix labeling.
Anyhow.
Retro.![]()
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Track 178 : "Psychological" : Fundamental CD1; Track 01
Finally we arrived to "Fundamental" , a politic album.
Psychological:
A very paranoid, mysterious, and terrifying song: unconventional album opener for the Pet Shop Boys’ 2006 album, Fundamental
Musically, it stands out for the elegance of its immersive, synth-driven production—characteristic of the group's collaboration with Trevor Horn during that period—achieving a texture that traps the listener in a mental loop.
Finally we arrived to "Fundamental" , a politic album.
Psychological:
A very paranoid, mysterious, and terrifying song: unconventional album opener for the Pet Shop Boys’ 2006 album, Fundamental
Musically, it stands out for the elegance of its immersive, synth-driven production—characteristic of the group's collaboration with Trevor Horn during that period—achieving a texture that traps the listener in a mental loop.
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Their most intriguing opener. The title fits the theme and sound, an addictive track that seems to introduce us into their darkest album yet. Is it so? We'll see in the next songs...
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I used to not really rate this one, because it's not very melodic or specific. But these days I bloody love it. I have a lot more time for Release than most, but Fundamental sees the Pet Shop Boys return to their imperial phase level of quality. Just an astonishing album.
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I remember picking the promo 12" up before the release of the album, and wasn't even sure it was PSB initially. Just took it on blind faith that it was.
Great start to the Fundamental album.
Great start to the Fundamental album.
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Great track that has aged really well. Very different, very moody and very electro. One of the best things in Fundamental (not a very much loved album by me).
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Also a great opening to the Fundamental Tour!! (at least in North America; they later changed the opening to We’re the Pet Shop Boys)
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Fantastic track. Weren't they originally going to open the album with a longer version of God Willing?
I need to listen to Fundamental again; it's been a while. Such a good album.
I need to listen to Fundamental again; it's been a while. Such a good album.
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Wow, so we are exactly half-way through this 20 year journey now. I have very happy memories of this time with all the build-up to the new album and with the instrumental version of Psychological on the internet. In fact I joined this forum in February 2006 during a seven month overseas holiday. The fact that this event is now closer to the release of Please than it is to now is bizarre and disturbing.