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#16 Post by One of the crowd »

kimphilby wrote:
Thats why its filed under "Pet Shop Boys" in HMV then!!
If I said black was white you'd say it was grey.

I work for the distribution company, it was filed as "Tennant/ Lowe, composers". Rather than "PSB, artists".
Of course HMV would put it with PSB because they want to sell more copies and would do so putting it there than in the Soundtrack department.
Its still a Pet Shop Boys recording and record. I know that in the classical word, it is proper to list under the composers names.

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#17 Post by kimphilby »

Its still a Pet Shop Boys recording and record
But it was never marketed as such. It was always going to be a low-key release with a proper studio album just months away.

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#18 Post by One of the crowd »

kimphilby wrote:
Its still a Pet Shop Boys recording and record
But it was never marketed as such. It was always going to be a low-key release with a proper studio album just months away.
We'll agree to disagree I think!

Whilst I respect is was released as Tennant/Lowe etc etc, its still the Pet Shop Boys work in my eyes!

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#19 Post by Phillip »

I have left Fundamental/ism & Battleship Potemkim in my 3 CD changer for the last two months now. I was amazed at how good BP is, I prefer it from tracks 7-15 whereas Fundamental I prefer from tracks 1-5.
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#20 Post by dVTB »

It's ridiculous to compare PSB with the latest popular pop star who has just enjoyed 1 or 2 hits and who's topping the bill today. Most of such pop stars will be completely forgotten in 5 years from now, only very few of them remain.

PSB are one of the few bands of the mid-80's who always remained, never disappeared and who are still as great as they were back then. They currently have an unbroken string of 20 UK Top 20 hit singles and saw their most recent album charting at #5. That's a true achievement, 20 years on. So is having a loyal fanbase; you don't get such a fanbase without a reason.

Of course, the average 13-year old music consumer prefers to buy the latest Sugababes or Westlife single, rather than the latest song by two balding mid-age men... But the comparison is not fair. Let's meet again in 15-20 years. Then we will compare the commercial and artistic success of PSB in 2006 with the same success of Westlife and the Sugababes in 2021. I already know who will win hands down.

And all commercial results, aside: I just hope we will get to hear a couple of brilliant new PSB albums in the future. Some commercial succes is preferred and desirable, but certainly not *necessary* for them to continue doing what they are good at: delivering great pop songs.

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#21 Post by No Muscle Mary »

I don't think people are comparing them to new acts but to some of their contemporaries who have had a resurgence in popularity after a slump.

Like Morrissey or Kylie or Madonna.

We'd all like that to happen to PSB in one sense, because we know the quality of their releases deserves better than the chart positions they've been getting.

Having said that, I prefer them being a cult thing. I'd hate for everyone to suddenly love PSB and claim that they always have, when I know that for years I've been in a tiny minority of hardcore fans who get slagged off for liking them.
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#22 Post by kimphilby »

If PSB have finished after 'Very', not one more release or peep out of them, they'd be revered by now. And if it had ended cos one of them died, even more so.

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#23 Post by Tom Angel »

Re: It was Andrew Lloyd Webber's Really Useful Group that put Closer To Heaven on the stage

I think the poster was referring to Andrew Lloyd Webber in terms of the generic-harmless-type musical he would write, not produce, as opposed to getting into the specifics, but respect to him for producing it actually. .
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#24 Post by NorthernLad »

dVTB wrote:It's ridiculous to compare PSB with the latest popular pop star who has just enjoyed 1 or 2 hits and who's topping the bill today. Most of such pop stars will be completely forgotten in 5 years from now, only very few of them remain.

PSB are one of the few bands of the mid-80's who always remained, never disappeared and who are still as great as they were back then. They currently have an unbroken string of 20 UK Top 20 hit singles and saw their most recent album charting at #5. That's a true achievement, 20 years on. So is having a loyal fanbase; you don't get such a fanbase without a reason.

Of course, the average 13-year old music consumer prefers to buy the latest Sugababes or Westlife single, rather than the latest song by two balding mid-age men... But the comparison is not fair. Let's meet again in 15-20 years. Then we will compare the commercial and artistic success of PSB in 2006 with the same success of Westlife and the Sugababes in 2021. I already know who will win hands down.

And all commercial results, aside: I just hope we will get to hear a couple of brilliant new PSB albums in the future. Some commercial succes is preferred and desirable, but certainly not *necessary* for them to continue doing what they are good at: delivering great pop songs.
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#25 Post by kimphilby »

PSB are one of the few bands of the mid-80's who always remained, never disappeared and who are still as great as they were back then
Brilliantly said!
But that bits not true IMO

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#26 Post by dancemaster »

Fundamentalism suffer from Release being released. Sure Release scared away many people and commercially it was a disaster. But then again who cares, psb have nothing more to prove other than do music that interest them and have fun. I love fundamentalism as an album but it lacks the obvious hits.

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#27 Post by kennym »

dancemaster wrote: Release scared away many people and commercially it was a disaster.
A Million sales is a disaster? :roll:

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#28 Post by jules »

i'd love to see them becoming number one , with releasing a great and powerful dance album with great promotion from EMI
i'am sure they still have the power to do that
and in my imagination the psb are this group that is the definition of pop music that everyone buy

imagine that numb become number one , how wonderful would it be !

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#29 Post by mole973102 »

Hello! It was a Pet Shop Boys release.
By a strange coincidence. That's what I am currently listening to. :)

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#30 Post by NorthernLad »

kimphilby wrote:
PSB are one of the few bands of the mid-80's who always remained, never disappeared and who are still as great as they were back then
Brilliantly said!
But that bits not true IMO

I think Fundamental stands up well along side any of their prior records, and Release was a gutsy change of pace with some excellent material. I love their 80's stuff, of course, but I'm impressed at their ongoing ability to keep churning out great records. Long live PSB!! 8)


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