Rufus Wainwright's cover of Casanova In Hell

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joncool5 · #31 Post by **joncool5** » Mon 29 May 2006, 10:52 am

trussy74 wrote:
CroMagnon wrote:I was blown away. "Want One" is an unbelievable album, and the ideal introduction to Rufus' work. "I don't know what it is", "Go or go ahead" and "Dinner At Eight" are slices of genius.
Totally agree. One of my all time favourite albums. Poses is great too.

The album includes 3 or 4 really good pop songs but most of the album is slightly bland and nothing stands out. Saying that, I was expecting someone special like Jeff Buckley and he obviously isn't in the same league as Jeff Buckley was.

gomorrah · #32 Post by **gomorrah** » Mon 29 May 2006, 6:12 pm

joncool5 wrote:
trussy74 wrote:
CroMagnon wrote:I was blown away. "Want One" is an unbelievable album, and the ideal introduction to Rufus' work. "I don't know what it is", "Go or go ahead" and "Dinner At Eight" are slices of genius.
Totally agree. One of my all time favourite albums. Poses is great too.
The album includes 3 or 4 really good pop songs but most of the album is slightly bland and nothing stands out. Saying that, I was expecting someone special like Jeff Buckley and he obviously isn't in the same league as Jeff Buckley was.

I love Rufus' voice (and I agree he's not in the same league as Jeff Buckley) but I'm afraid I like Neil's version of CiH much, MUCH better.

Rufus sounds the same all through the song. Neil's version actually portrays the lyrics. when Casanova is in "hell" - Neil sounds disheartened, resigned, 'deflated'

(and that little piece of music is naughty as hell - I'm thinking that might have been chris' idea!)

but when Casanova is well, Neil sounds savagely satisfied, almost bitingly (his wit and bite, his legendary appetite etc) smug. Casanova IS well and Neil's voice absolutely reflects it.

this is the kind of ditty that can be handled by a very seasoned songwriter and a singer who doesn't care as much about how he SOUNDS.

oh and I love this song: the pen is a weapon and it sure can change history, personal or political!

E-Mail Vampire · #33 Post by **E-Mail Vampire** » Mon 29 May 2006, 7:16 pm

I have totally changed my mind I so want this concert/gig (whatever you want to call it) on CD now.

Your Funny Uncle · Tue 30 May 2006, 12:26 am

Is it me or Rufus Wainwright sound like he's drunk? I'll confess to not knowing his work at all. Does he always sing like that?

joncool5 · #35 Post by **joncool5** » Tue 30 May 2006, 12:50 am

Your Funny Uncle wrote:Is it me or Rufus Wainwright sound like he's drunk? I'll confess to not knowing his work at all. Does he always sing like that?

Yeah.

rabagast · #36 Post by **rabagast** » Tue 30 May 2006, 1:49 am

joncool5 wrote:
Your Funny Uncle wrote:Is it me or Rufus Wainwright sound like he's drunk? I'll confess to not knowing his work at all. Does he always sing like that?
Yeah.

Rufus' voice and singing style is an aquired taste. Many hate it and quite a few love it. A bit like Neil, then

joncool5 · #37 Post by **joncool5** » Tue 30 May 2006, 1:52 am

rabagast wrote:
joncool5 wrote:
Your Funny Uncle wrote:Is it me or Rufus Wainwright sound like he's drunk? I'll confess to not knowing his work at all. Does he always sing like that?
Yeah.
Rufus' voice and singing style is an aquired taste. Many hate it and quite a few love it. A bit like Neil, then

I quite like it.

rabagast · #38 Post by **rabagast** » Tue 30 May 2006, 2:00 am

Me too. His voice has character, even though he "technically" sings quite wierd (some will say weak). But that's also why I love Neil Tennant and, for example, Aimee Mann as well.

joncool5 · #39 Post by **joncool5** » Tue 30 May 2006, 2:34 am

rabagast wrote:Me too. His voice has character, even though he "technically" sings quite wierd (some will say weak). But that's also why I love Neil Tennant and, for example, Aimee Mann as well.

His voice isn't an acquired taste in the same way that Antony and the Johnsons is.

Your Funny Uncle · Tue 30 May 2006, 9:49 am

From this song, I wouldn't say I dislike it. It certainly makes for a marked contrast to Neil's clearly annunciated style, though...

Drem · #41 Post by **Drem** » Thu 01 Jun 2006, 12:13 pm

Don't like it. One of my favorite album songs he bring down into irritating moaning.

Steve Fett · #42 Post by **Steve Fett** » Thu 01 Jun 2006, 1:10 pm

so well suited to his voice.

An exceptional track, and a exceptional cover version

retrofuturist · #43 Post by **retrofuturist** » Thu 01 Jun 2006, 11:55 pm

I thought it was a terrible vocal. That young Rufus could do with some elocution lessons. Neil's version is so much better.

CroMagnon · #44 Post by **CroMagnon** » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 12:32 am

I'm a big Rufus fan. His voice may be an "acquired taste" (I personally love it), but it's difficult to deny the quality of his songwriting. If you haven't heard any of his own stuff, log onto iTunes and download "Dinner at Eight" for 79p or whatever. It's the most devastatingly touching and sad song about his relationship with his father . . . . if you can listen without it bringing a tear to your eye, you're a tougher nut than me.

rabagast · #45 Post by **rabagast** » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 12:59 pm

Steve Fett wrote:so well suited to his voice.

An exceptional track, and a exceptional cover version

I wouldn't exactly call it a cover version. Its PSB (& co.) playing the track exactly like on the album, but with Rufus singing.