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dannii
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#31 Post by dannii »

what are you on about?
trance is a music genre and music genres can't ''die''
they can just be more improved
trance is always there, as pop and rock and all other genres are
but there's various kind of trance music
there's hardstyle, progressive, and a little lighter trance
however, it's all trance and why are you so against it?
it's just a music style like any other
PSB have never been bored with one style, they always experiment and it's nice that they did one trance song too (In private)
and THIS IS ORIGINAL VERSION!
just the version on Fundamentalism is extended mix, and we'll get original mix on Minimal
stop complaining.

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#32 Post by Boy Strange »

Just give me one more, one more Trance tonight.
Thank God it's Mum's night off

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#33 Post by dannii »

Boy Strange wrote:Just give me one more, one more Trance tonight.
sounds cool! they should release ''One more chance'' with Elton John! :lol:

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#34 Post by raggatwin »

Burj wrote:
Janet Street-Porter wrote:Apparently it's a homoerotic fantasy about the various members of Blue. Elton's on spoons.
But who's top? Dunc or Lee? :P
I saw Lee Ryan in the street the other day. He now has peroxide blonde hair.
Hello my name is Neil Tennant and I'm Chris Lowe and we're of the Pet Shop Boys.

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#35 Post by Burj »

raggatwin wrote:He now has peroxide blonde hair.
Not gay at all then. :roll:

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#36 Post by jamie1978 »

Burj wrote:
jamie1978 wrote:What part of the two words 'excluding remixes' do you not understand?
The bit that says that the Here in question is essentially an album track on D3, and if PSB knew trance died in 1998 then perhaps they might have made the track sound slightly different to what it does? :roll:

And I repeat: there's no proof IP is a remix, yawn.
Here on D3 *is* a remix of an album track.

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#37 Post by jamie1978 »

dannii wrote:what are you on about?
trance is a music genre and music genres can't ''die''
they can just be more improved
trance is always there, as pop and rock and all other genres are
but there's various kind of trance music
there's hardstyle, progressive, and a little lighter trance
however, it's all trance and why are you so against it?
it's just a music style like any other
PSB have never been bored with one style, they always experiment and it's nice that they did one trance song too (In private)
and THIS IS ORIGINAL VERSION!
just the version on Fundamentalism is extended mix, and we'll get original mix on Minimal
stop complaining.
I'm not personally against trance, even though I do believe its had its day (which was the mid-late nineties).

I'm simply pointing out the fact that the PSB's have said they are not interested in trance or house anymore (this was in one of their Fundamental interviews), so Blue on Blue is unlikely to be trance.

The only songs they have been involved with recently with trance 'flavours' are all remixes of existing songs. Fact.

Here (extended), HAD (BJ) and IP are ALL remixes.

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#38 Post by Burj »

jamie1978 wrote:The only songs they have been involved with recently with trance 'flavours' are all remixes of existing songs. Fact.

Here (extended), HAD (BJ) and IP are ALL remixes.
Here is a PSB's own mix from start to finish, so if "PSB knew trance died in 1998" why did they make it sound like it, and place it on an album? Yawn.

I'm afraid until you can prove IP is a remix no one can really take you very seriously at all. It may be no more of a remix than Fugitive. :roll:

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#39 Post by jamie1978 »

Of course IP is a remix, to suggest otherwise is laughable. The original version is quite clearly radically different. It IS a remix. That enough proof for you? Honestly... some people.

Here (extended) IS a remix.

Fugitive is clearly not a remix.

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#40 Post by profile790 »

jamie1978 wrote:Here (extended) IS a remix.
It certainly is, yes. But the remixers are named Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe...

Another PSB track that sounds almost like trance is The Squadron, track #14 of the Battleship Potemkin soundtrack.

Mind you: I'm just teasing you a bit. I fully agree with you that Blue On Blue will probably NOT be a trance track. I guess it will be a PSB'ish ballad, like Girls Don't Cry.

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#41 Post by jamie1978 »

stats-freak wrote:
jamie1978 wrote:Here (extended) IS a remix.
It certainly is, yes. But the remixers are named Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe...

Another PSB track that sounds almost like trance is The Squadron, track #14 of the Battleship Potemkin soundtrack.

Mind you: I'm just teasing you a bit. I fully agree with you that Blue On Blue will probably NOT be a trance track. I guess it will be a PSB'ish ballad, like Girls Don't Cry.
Yup, I'm aware who remixed Here, but is is still a remix, which is the point I was making.

Also, that mix is four years old. They said recently that they are no longer interested in trance or house, so this debate about 4 year old songs is rather pointless.

My points were, and remain;

1) They have stated they are no longer interested in house or trance
2) *Excluding remixes*, they have not released a trance influenced song since FYOG in 1999
3) Blue on Blue is therefore highly unlikely to be trance

With regard to the Squadron, we'll agree to disagree on that one. To my ears is very clearly electro rather than trance.

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#42 Post by profile790 »

jamie1978 wrote:With regard to the Squadron, we'll agree to disagree on that one. To my ears is very clearly electro rather than trance.
Let's agree to disagree then. I wouldn't label The Squadron 'pure trance', but it has some trancy influences, or at least a trancy feeling, I think. :)

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#43 Post by Burj »

jamie1978 wrote:Of course IP is a remix. The original version is quite clearly radically different. That enough proof for you?
Um, some Hackney under-carriage parrot says it's a remix and we all take that as gospel. Oh lordy, you really do have an inflated opinion of yourself! Better take a lie down before you start to fly away. On second thoughts....

Now you're trying to claim you've heard the original IP. This is someone who by his own admission on the 'other forum' didn't get to hear Fundamental until long after most other posters had :lol: :P

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#44 Post by jamie1978 »

Are you seriously telling me you didnt know there was an orginal version of IP?

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#45 Post by psb-freak »

Hopefully sung by Chris.
Interviewer:
-What would you tell someone about yourself if you wanted to impress them?

Chris:
-I´ve got a 12-inch plonker.

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