I like it! Suits Neil's tone and inflection very well. It's not typical for them, but they've produced hundreds of songs so good on them for mixing it up.NotInvisible wrote: Sun 20 Apr 2025, 10:48 pm Winner isn't a bad song, it's just a bad Pet Shop Boys song.
Which SMASH single was the most "forgettable"?
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Somehow perversely happy to see Numb leading the poll lol 
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Re: Which SMASH single was the most "forgettable"?
For me, the most forgettable is Say it to me. Nice enough song but released at a time when it didn't really matter what they released as a single because it wasn't going to be all over the radio or MTV. Also, wasn't Burn initially going to be the next single until that nightclub tragedy? Burn would definitely have been a stronger single.
Single-Bilingual was the first time I did question their choice of single but it sounds okay now.
Somewhere was a sign that they were out of touch with the zeitgeist and a bit lost.
Numb is most memorable for being played on BBC1 immediately after England went out of the World Cup on penalties in 2006 and is therefore meritorious, even if it marks the Americanisation of Neil's lyrics (see also the 'wanna' in I don't wanna).
Together is memorable for being the end of their Top 40 days - ironic as it is clearly them trying to sound EDM, which was then all the rage.
And Winner is memorable for them trying to revive their Top 40 days with a ham-fisted attempt to jump on the Olympics bandwagon. However, diminishing returns set in and their only other Top 40 hit came after the death of the lead singer when he was poisoned by Russian agents.
Single-Bilingual was the first time I did question their choice of single but it sounds okay now.
Somewhere was a sign that they were out of touch with the zeitgeist and a bit lost.
Numb is most memorable for being played on BBC1 immediately after England went out of the World Cup on penalties in 2006 and is therefore meritorious, even if it marks the Americanisation of Neil's lyrics (see also the 'wanna' in I don't wanna).
Together is memorable for being the end of their Top 40 days - ironic as it is clearly them trying to sound EDM, which was then all the rage.
And Winner is memorable for them trying to revive their Top 40 days with a ham-fisted attempt to jump on the Olympics bandwagon. However, diminishing returns set in and their only other Top 40 hit came after the death of the lead singer when he was poisoned by Russian agents.
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Somewhere has always bothered me a bit. The first time I heard it was at the Savoy residency, and it was so loud and boisterous played live I couldn't even "hear" it. Once I got it on CD and listened to it properly, it made more sense in the context of the Savoy but as you say, it wasn't really saying much else.Patrick Bateman wrote: Tue 22 Apr 2025, 6:58 am Somewhere was a sign that they were out of touch with the zeitgeist and a bit lost.
Maybe not forgettable but agree it maybe wasn't really a song that captured the moment.
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Do you mean the Americanization of Neil’s vocals? I believe the lyrics to Numb are Diane Warren’s.Patrick Bateman wrote: Tue 22 Apr 2025, 6:58 am
Numb is most memorable for being played on BBC1 immediately after England went out of the World Cup on penalties in 2006 and is therefore meritorious, even if it marks the Americanisation of Neil's lyrics (see also the 'wanna' in I don't wanna).
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They didn't write Winner for the Olympics.Patrick Bateman wrote: Tue 22 Apr 2025, 6:58 amAnd Winner is memorable for them trying to revive their Top 40 days with a ham-fisted attempt to jump on the Olympics bandwagon.
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No, the subsequent Americanisation on tracks like I don't wanna.MikeyC wrote: Tue 22 Apr 2025, 4:35 pm
Do you mean the Americanization of Neil’s vocals? I believe the lyrics to Numb are Diane Warren’s.
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Re: Which SMASH single was the most "forgettable"?
I must have had a hallucination about them pimping it during the Olympics then.
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They were really succesful on that object, so the plan worked outside the charts.Patrick Bateman wrote: Tue 22 Apr 2025, 6:58 am
And Winner is memorable for them trying to revive their Top 40 days with a ham-fisted attempt to jump on the Olympics bandwagon.
The little concert from PSB in Wimbledon, WG during the opening ceremony of the Olympics (twice), WG with a big performance from PSB in the closing ceremony of the Olympics and PSB became almost oficially British treasures with thr Olympics in front of Buckingham Palace with a big coverage from BBC.
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Winner was written when the BBC suggested the Eurovision, and they chose the absolutely worst route: purposely cheesy and cliché eurovision. Nil points. They performed it at the paraolympics opening ceremony instead. True story.
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No they didn't. They performed it at the 'homecoming' parade of both GB teams.markus wrote: Tue 22 Apr 2025, 9:08 pm They performed it at the paraolympics opening ceremony instead. True story.
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Re: Which SMASH single was the most "forgettable"?
I think forgettable is the wrong word for Winner - it's probably the worst song in their catalogue and yet they used it to introduce an album campaign, for all of which it's extremely memorable, at least to me. If anything, I suppose the most forgettable single, as a single, is I Don't Wanna, despite its excellent B-side and remixes - it just doesn't really do much for me on its own, the title isn't very them, and it means Smash fizzles out a bit unnecessarily, makes their later career even before Nonetheless sound a lot less impressive than it really was. I don't think they've ever chosen quite such bad singles as they did off Hotspot - not bad songs, just the four least interesting moments on a record that has a lot to offer.
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