The really good album PSB had on their hands (no Results, better Behaviour)

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Re: The really good album PSB had on their hands (no Results, better Behaviour)

#46 Post by y3potential »

jasonjohn wrote: Sat 02 Dec 2023, 11:30 am
Nickname wrote: Tue 21 Nov 2023, 8:55 pm I see many reactions on Youtube to songs and videos of PSB and casual people don't feel an special emotion with the songs from Behaviour. PSB love this album and fans has overated it but it's not that good.
OK that's a pretty heavy confirmation bias you have going there. Honestly, why bother accumulating a case like this.
I think sometimes that it could be a communication/language issue with Nickname, not getting their point over as they would like. That said, Nickname seems to be forever stuck in 1988. As nice and as thrilling as the Imperial phase was, PSB and the rest of the world have moved on..
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stopthecar wrote: Sat 02 Dec 2023, 8:12 am Nickname, you have every right tot your own opinion. And you have every right tot post your opinion here.
Please do.
But for the love of God, please don't take your opinion for facts.
Learn to accept that People have other opinions
You are right, I love to express my opinions like they were facts. Yes, it's true.

The thing is I think I'm a fan of PSB but with a perspective a casual fan or a simple music fan can have. For example, for the fan Being Boring or Rent are masterpieces but I don't see those reactions on people who are not fans.

The lyrics are great, I'm talking about the music.

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jasonjohn wrote: Sat 02 Dec 2023, 11:30 am
Nickname wrote: Tue 21 Nov 2023, 8:55 pm I see many reactions on Youtube to songs and videos of PSB and casual people don't feel an special emotion with the songs from Behaviour. PSB love this album and fans has overated it but it's not that good.
OK that's a pretty heavy confirmation bias you have going there. Honestly, why bother accumulating a case like this.
You can see the chart positions of songs like Love Comes Quickly, Rent or Being Boring even when PSB were at the top of the bussiness. The slow songs fans adore here are not the ones casual people love from them. PSB never had a hit with a ballad. In fact, for me their best one is King's Cross and it wasn't a single.

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y3potential wrote: Sat 02 Dec 2023, 1:04 pm
jasonjohn wrote: Sat 02 Dec 2023, 11:30 am
Nickname wrote: Tue 21 Nov 2023, 8:55 pm I see many reactions on Youtube to songs and videos of PSB and casual people don't feel an special emotion with the songs from Behaviour. PSB love this album and fans has overated it but it's not that good.
OK that's a pretty heavy confirmation bias you have going there. Honestly, why bother accumulating a case like this.
I think sometimes that it could be a communication/language issue with Nickname, not getting their point over as they would like. That said, Nickname seems to be forever stuck in 1988. As nice and as thrilling as the Imperial phase was, PSB and the rest of the world have moved on..
Yes and no. It's obvious PSB feel more confortable making slow and sad songs than fast songs. Thanks to Stuart Price, they didn't follow that way with Electric and Super too much. But it's obvious the anthemic pop tracks full of details are disappearing, when they follow that way they make more dance oriented tracks like "Vocal" which sounds like regular song you can listen on any club when you drink something. A song even Radio 2 didn't have on their playlist.

Try to listen "Blinding ligts", "As it was" and then "Take on me", you'll see the world haven't moved on as much as you think.

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Nickname wrote: Sat 02 Dec 2023, 2:38 pm You can see the chart positions of songs like Love Comes Quickly, Rent or Being Boring even when PSB were at the top of the bussiness. The slow songs fans adore here are not the ones casual people love from them. PSB never had a hit with a ballad. In fact, for me their best one is King's Cross and it wasn't a single.
OK I just don't see the point, since those three slower tracks did still chart. Jealousy did well too and is fairly well known.

It's not like they are going to chart today just because they crank up the BPS.

They are writing albums they want to write.

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Behaviour is perfect as it is.

It was my teenage angst album and songs like Nervously helped a gay teenager growing up in a drab English market town in the early 90s, feel a little bit better about himself.

Songs aren't just about being commercial, they are also about what they mean to the listener.

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disco_boy wrote: Tue 05 Dec 2023, 2:58 pm Behaviour is perfect as it is.

It was my teenage angst album and songs like Nervously helped a gay teenager growing up in a drab English market town in the early 90s, feel a little bit better about himself.

Songs aren't just about being commercial, they are also about what they mean to the listener.
Yes but you are talking about the lyrics again. I know you'll say the music is great too and I'm not saying it's bad by any mean. I'm saying it's not as good as previous albums for me but I know many fans think is the best one.

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Nickname wrote: Tue 05 Dec 2023, 11:31 pm
disco_boy wrote: Tue 05 Dec 2023, 2:58 pm Behaviour is perfect as it is.

It was my teenage angst album and songs like Nervously helped a gay teenager growing up in a drab English market town in the early 90s, feel a little bit better about himself.

Songs aren't just about being commercial, they are also about what they mean to the listener.
Yes but you are talking about the lyrics again. I know you'll say the music is great too and I'm not saying it's bad by any mean. I'm saying it's not as good as previous albums for me but I know many fans think is the best one.
No. I am talking about the lyrics and the music.

Lyrics come alive when they are accompanied by good music.

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Yeah, Behaviour is perfect as it is !, I was to young to understand it initially, but gradually I got it, it’s a beautiful album, and as Chris said, we set out to make a real techno album, but if what comes out of you isn’t techno that isn’t really much you can do about it.

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If you think it's perfect as it is, you lack imagination.
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telys wrote: Sat 09 Dec 2023, 5:51 pm If you think it's perfect as it is, you lack imagination.
Oh come on!

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TallThinMan wrote: Sat 09 Dec 2023, 6:28 pm
telys wrote: Sat 09 Dec 2023, 5:51 pm If you think it's perfect as it is, you lack imagination.
Oh come on!
Well I can think of five things in a split second that would make it better: adding all the extended mixes (of BB, This Must Be..., Seriously, So Hard & Jealousy).
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Greetings,
telys wrote: Sun 10 Dec 2023, 8:01 pm
TallThinMan wrote: Sat 09 Dec 2023, 6:28 pm
telys wrote: Sat 09 Dec 2023, 5:51 pm If you think it's perfect as it is, you lack imagination.
Oh come on!
Well I can think of five things in a split second that would make it better: adding all the extended mixes (of BB, This Must Be..., Seriously, So Hard & Jealousy).
That's not better - that's just longer.

If you want it to go longer, listen to it twice.

Retro. :)
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retrofuturist wrote: Sun 10 Dec 2023, 10:15 pm Greetings,
telys wrote: Sun 10 Dec 2023, 8:01 pm
TallThinMan wrote: Sat 09 Dec 2023, 6:28 pm

Oh come on!
Well I can think of five things in a split second that would make it better: adding all the extended mixes (of BB, This Must Be..., Seriously, So Hard & Jealousy).
That's not better - that's just longer.

If you want it to go longer, listen to it twice.

Retro. :)
And miss the house-stuff on BB extended? or Neil quoting Shakespeare? No way!
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