PSB remixing other people

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patrick · #1 Post by **patrick** » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 9:59 pm

Is anything missing from this list?

Atomizer: Hooked on Radiation
The Bloodhound Gang: Mope
Blur: Girls & Boys
David Bowie: Hallo Spaceboy
Fat Les: Jerusalem
The Killers: Read My Mind
Madonna: Sorry
Rammstein: Mein Teil
Yoko Ono: Walking on Thin Ice

Young Offender · #2 Post by **Young Offender** » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 10:42 pm

Did they not mix any of the Electronic stuff?

How about She's Madonna?

TheGardner · #3 Post by **TheGardner** » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 11:05 pm

no, he only wants pure PSB remixes in this list! If not:

Cicero
Ian Wright
Kiki Kokova
Pete Burns

Lleonard Pler · #4 Post by **Lleonard Pler** » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 11:06 pm

Didn't they remix Kiki Kokova - Love to Love You Baby?

dVTB · #5 Post by **dVTB** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 12:37 am

Controversial, denied and a claim that's often met with criticism: the single version of the song Whispering Your Name by Alison Moyet, with additional production by 'Steve Rocket and Johnny Nitrate' (two names that appear nowhere else) sounds remarkably much like a Pet Shop Boys production/remix.

And PSB *are* in fact capable of using fake names. Check the 'Run Girl Run' single by Billie Trix for a clear example.

Oznerol · #6 Post by **Oznerol** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 1:44 am

I was thinking about this subject (PSB remixes) last week, and I think that it´s time for an album compilation with all this works...there are very big names here, so possible copyright nightmares, but not impossible...Oakenfold and Jam & Spoon (just to name two) did this kind of compilations with big names included too, and the result was great...

DJAMIX · #7 Post by **DJAMIX** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 2:14 am

Maybe in couple years it can happen.

dVTB · #8 Post by **dVTB** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 8:50 am

Oznerol wrote:I was thinking about this subject (PSB remixes) last week, and I think that it´s time for an album compilation with all this works...there are very big names here, so possible copyright nightmares, but not impossible...Oakenfold and Jam & Spoon (just to name two) did this kind of compilations with big names included too, and the result was great...

To be honest: I don't see the point of such an album. All die-hard PSB fans bought those remixes, so it will feature nothing new for them. And it's not really going to appeal very much to the general music consumer, because PSB aren't known for their remixes. Nor will such an album be promoted.

Drem · #9 Post by **Drem** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 8:54 am

Oznerol wrote:I was thinking about this subject (PSB remixes) last week, and I think that it´s time for an album compilation with all this works...

DJAMIX wrote:Maybe in couple years it can happen.

Yes, I think about the same last two years. They just need another couple of mixes to finish set. Perhaps, it'll be released as a megamix CD (but not in the same way as Disco 2)? - seems to be good sudden, intermediate (non-album) release.

TheGardner · #10 Post by **TheGardner** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 8:58 am

dVTB wrote:Controversial, denied and a claim that's often met with criticism: the single version of the song Whispering Your Name by Alison Moyet, with additional production by 'Steve Rocket and Johnny Nitrate' (two names that appear nowhere else) sounds remarkably much like a Pet Shop Boys production/remix.

yeeeees! Same thoughts here!

dVTB wrote:And PSB *are* in fact capable of using fake names. Check the 'Run Girl Run' single by Billie Trix for a clear example.

but I doubt, that we never found out about it, if it were true...

dVTB · #11 Post by **dVTB** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 9:20 am

TheGardner wrote:But I doubt, that we never found out about it, if it were true...

Agreed. I think they will never admit it. I'm about 99,9 percent sure though, it's actually a Pet Shop Boys production. There are many reasons why I think so:

- The overall sound of the song and especially its arrangement and its ending.
- Steve Rocket and Johnny Nitrate *never* produced any other record, despite their good work on Whispering Your Name.
- The extended mix of the song, also done by SR & JN, sounds pretty much like how an extended mix of a PSB song would sound.
- This 1993-single features a trumpet sound similar to the one in PSB's 1993-single I wouldn't normally do this kind of thing.
- It features a keyboard sound that sounds very much like the one PSB used on So Sorry I Said.
- PSB used monikers for the Run Girl Run single by Billie Trix.

The question for is NOT whether this is a PSB production or not. The question is why it is denied. We can only speculate about that. Some people claim Ian Broudie produced the song. He - indeed - produced the *original* album version of the song, but why would he use a moniker for this additional production. Others suggest Erasure are behind it. Same question: why would they use a moniker?

But why would PSB use a moniker? Perhaps Alison Moyet didn't want her good friend (?) Vince Clarke to find out she hired PSB? Perhaps PSB didn't want to be associated with Alison? Perhaps PSB's record company didn't want PSB to do production work for a competive record label? - No idea, really.

I just hope either Alison or PSB will admit it sooner or later. It's simply too obvious.

Eldritch · #12 Post by **Eldritch** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 9:29 am

dVTB wrote:
Oznerol wrote:I was thinking about this subject (PSB remixes) last week, and I think that it´s time for an album compilation with all this works...there are very big names here, so possible copyright nightmares, but not impossible...Oakenfold and Jam & Spoon (just to name two) did this kind of compilations with big names included too, and the result was great...
To be honest: I don't see the point of such an album. All die-hard PSB fans bought those remixes, so it will feature nothing new for them. And it's not really going to appeal very much to the general music consumer, because PSB aren't known for their remixes. Nor will such an album be promoted.

Why not? I for one have only half of them on a proper cd. And the ones that I do have are on a number of singles, promos, compilations etc. Plus with the current trend of record companies killing cd single off, in the future many mixes will be even harder to find on any kind of official release: for instance the long Read My Mind mix is currently only available on a Best Buy bonus disc which you can't buy a) outside America or b) without a Killers album.

So if they did a couple of more remixes for the compilation, I think there could be a market among diehard fans – the same size of market as for the Back To Mine release.

Joemoz · #13 Post by **Joemoz** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 9:35 am

dVTB wrote:
TheGardner wrote:But I doubt, that we never found out about it, if it were true...
Agreed. I think they will never admit it. I'm about 99,9 percent sure though, it's actually a Pet Shop Boys production. There are many reasons why I think so:

- The overall sound of the song and especially its arrangement and its ending.
- Steve Rocket and Johnny Nitrate *never* produced any other record, despite their good work on Whispering Your Name.
- The extended mix of the song, also done by SR & JN, sounds pretty much like how an extended mix of a PSB song would sound.
- This 1993-single features a trumpet sound similar to the one in PSB's 1993-single I wouldn't normally do this kind of thing.
- It features a keyboard sound that sounds very much like the one PSB used on So Sorry I Said.
- PSB used monikers for the Run Girl Run single by Billie Trix.

The question for is NOT whether this is a PSB production or not. The question is why it is denied. We can only speculate about that. Some people claim Ian Broudie produced the song. He - indeed - produced the *original* album version of the song, but why would he use a moniker for this additional production. Others suggest Erasure are behind it. Same question: why would they use a moniker?

But why would PSB use a moniker? Perhaps Alison Moyet didn't want her good friend (?) Vince Clarke to find out she hired PSB? Perhaps PSB didn't want to be associated with Alison? Perhaps PSB's record company didn't want PSB to do production work for a competive record label? - No idea, really.

I just hope either Alison or PSB will admit it sooner or later. It's simply too obvious.

Sorry to say this, but I think that is complete bollocks. Yes it sounds a bit like a Pet Shop Boys song, though not more than perhaps 200 other songs. They were very influential in those days, so whoever remixed it (and I think it's probably Ian Broudie and a friend) might have wanted it to sound PSB-ish - what better way than to mimic some of their tracks? The only real hint that they should be involved lie in the names, but that could be so many other people. I find it completely unlikely that they should secretly remix this track and never tell anybody about it, even now. I'm sure they would have been proud of doing that for Alison Moyet and the idea that she was afraid that Vince Clarke would find out is, well, hilarious

The referral to Run Girl Run is also different: It was never a secret that they did that, and hiding their names fit in with the artistic presentation that it was the single of a fictional character.

dVTB · #14 Post by **dVTB** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 9:35 am

I partly agree with you, Eldritch. If the availability of cd-singles continues to develop in the current direction, the demand for a compilation of hard-to-find PSB remixes will automatically grow.

However, I had no problems to obtain all cd-singles featuring PSB-remixes so far, apart from a few *versions* of remixes, such as the extended Mein Teil remix and the extended Hallo Spaceboy mix.

dVTB · #15 Post by **dVTB** » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 9:41 am

Joemoz wrote:Sorry to say this, but that is complete bollocks. Yes it sounds a bit like a Pet Shop Boys song, though not more than perhaps 200 other songs. They were very influential in those days, so whoever remixed it (and I think it's probably Ian Broudie and a friend) might have wanted it to sound PSB-ish - what better way than to mimic some of their tracks? The only real hint that they should be involved lie in the names, but that could be so many other people. I find it completely unlikely that they should secretly remix this track and never tell anybody about it, even now. I'm sure they would have been proud of doing that for Alison Moyet and the idea that she was afraid that Vince Clarke would find out is, well, hilarious

We will never agree about this. You think it sounds 'a bit' like a PSB song, but in my opinion it has PSB written all over it. It doesn't sound 'a bit' like PSB, it sounds totally PSB. If you're not able to recognize that, you should simply listen better, sorry. The signs of PSB are *everywhere*, all througout the song, from the first to the final note. And I'm also not able to mention even 5 songs with no PSB-involvement that sound *more* PSB than this track does.

What on earth makes you think Ian Broudie did it? Does it sound like a Lighting Seeds production? Not at all. - I don't know *why* the PSB involvement in this track is denied, I was just speculating about possible reasons. Apparently there is *some* reason why PSB didn't put their names on the sleeve. And I don't think it's because they aren't involved in this track.