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#16 Post by Pod » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 3:12 pm

It’s probably a working title anyway. It’ll develop into something else.
Just for the sake of it, make sure you're always frowning. :|
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#17 Post by TallThinMan » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 5:18 pm

agent doris wrote:
Sun 10 Jun 2018, 3:37 pm
He referred to Ed Sheehan as “a busker”
Called it! :lol: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33396&p=568344&hili ... ng#p568344

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#18 Post by Tom Angel » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 9:08 pm

So populism is stupidity because it's a different point of view to your own? Mmm
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#19 Post by MikeyC » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 11:47 pm

Tom Angel wrote:
Mon 11 Jun 2018, 9:08 pm
So populism is stupidity because it's a different point of view to your own? Mmm
Hey, "A different point of view" would make a great PSB song title!!

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#20 Post by Patrick Bateman » Tue 12 Jun 2018, 8:36 am

Neil is so tiresome these days. Can’t Chris do what Spandau Ballet have done and replace him with a younger guy, ideally a Brexiteer?
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#21 Post by glennjridge » Tue 12 Jun 2018, 11:01 pm

Whoa...had no idea they did that! I had just bought the delux version of my favorite spandau album parade on I-tunes. first AC/DC replaces brian johnson with axel rose now this bullshit.

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#22 Post by tottenhammattspurs » Wed 13 Jun 2018, 9:39 am

Although to be fair, Brian was a replacement himself!
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#23 Post by NotInvisible » Wed 13 Jun 2018, 10:38 pm

Tom Angel wrote:
Mon 11 Jun 2018, 9:08 pm
So populism is stupidity because it's a different point of view to your own?
Populism has a specific definition; Neil is correct.

Depressing to see anyone defend Trump at this point in time, really drives home how badly our education system has failed us.

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#24 Post by Tom Angel » Thu 14 Jun 2018, 8:09 am

NotInvisible wrote:
Wed 13 Jun 2018, 10:38 pm
Tom Angel wrote:
Mon 11 Jun 2018, 9:08 pm
So populism is stupidity because it's a different point of view to your own?
Populism has a specific definition; Neil is correct.

Depressing to see anyone defend Trump at this point in time, really drives home how badly our education system has failed us.
According to you. I don't support Trump, but you can't entirely dismiss all those that do from your ivory liberal conceited tower. Unless you are a celeb of course, protected from the impact any politics whatsoever.
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#25 Post by onzio » Thu 14 Jun 2018, 9:28 am

NotInvisible wrote:
Wed 13 Jun 2018, 10:38 pm
Tom Angel wrote:
Mon 11 Jun 2018, 9:08 pm
So populism is stupidity because it's a different point of view to your own?
Populism has a specific definition; Neil is correct.
We are craving for more lessons from the illuminated ones!
Updating a couplet from a probably known pop duo: "You're an intellectual giant, an authority
to preach and teach the whole world about the politics"

Thank you... with Mammoth irony.

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#26 Post by andrewthomas100 » Thu 14 Jun 2018, 10:26 am

NotInvisible wrote:
Wed 13 Jun 2018, 10:38 pm
Depressing to see anyone defend Trump at this point in time, really drives home how badly our education system has failed us.
Thing is, it’s fine not to like Trump’s policies, or not to like Brexit. 16 million people did not support Brexit, many people don’t like Trump’s policies. I am sure they were all decent people and I totally respect that. But for those people who are anti Trump’s policies, or remainers, to suggest in any way whatsoever that their stance is intellectually superior or that people who do not agree with their views are “stupid”, or that “the education system has failed us” as you just said, well, seriously, I’ll be polite (as Neil suggests good manners are important) and I won’t say the rude phrase in my head. And it’s definitely no way to win hearts and minds.

But that attitude of supposed intellectual superiority on their part just drives home the true definition of “populism” which you can find if you Google it or look at the first line of the Wikipedia article: “Populism is a political philosophy supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against a privileged elite.” Yeah, absolutely it is. Trump is kicking up a stink, breaking the old rules, and finally getting results which have evaded the old politicians for decades. Anti-globalisation, retaining the individual characteristics which make your country great.

I voted to leave the EU because it is a bureaucratic gravy train for failed politicians which seeks to homogenise Europe, centralize power, and remove the freedoms from individual states and citizens. It’s a monolithic superstate trying to smother us with compliance and conformity. Look at poor Greece and Italy - their spirit has been crushed. It’s anti-freedom and anti individual creativity. Let’s get Britain back and unleash our creativity again.

“The UK joined the European Union on 1 November 1993 when the Treaty on European Union (otherwise known as the Treaty of Maastricht) came into force.” Yeah, almost precisely the time when British pop music went down the pan after 30 years of dominance, and the kids all started to look the same.

Oh, and I’m not thick. Thank you. And neither - absolutely neither - are the 17 million bloody great people of this country who bravely voted to leave.

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#27 Post by bookshopboy » Thu 14 Jun 2018, 11:14 am

andrewthomas100 wrote:
Thu 14 Jun 2018, 10:26 am
Oh, and I’m not thick. Thank you. And neither - absolutely neither - are the 17 million bloody great people of this country who bravely voted to leave.
Absolutely neither!? There are huge numbers of thick people on both sides of the vote, and in those who didn't vote.

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#28 Post by andrewthomas100 » Thu 14 Jun 2018, 12:25 pm

bookshopboy wrote:
Thu 14 Jun 2018, 11:14 am

Absolutely neither!? There are huge numbers of thick people on both sides of the vote, and in those who didn't vote.
I have no problem at all with thick people. Some of my best friends are thick as two short planks, It’s the thick people who think they’re clever - that’s the problem.


(No offence - no one here or Neil, who I know are all genuinely clever and discerning people.)

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#29 Post by rashomon » Thu 14 Jun 2018, 2:31 pm

going back on topic ... was there anything else that Neil mentioned re: new album, upcoming shows etc?
you could say conventional ... and I could claim intentional

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#30 Post by Straight_Talker » Thu 14 Jun 2018, 7:40 pm

This 👆
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