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#1 Post by scienceguy » Sun 29 Sep 2019, 7:28 pm

FADE IN: We turn on the "way back machine", and fans are standing in line at the Ziegfeld Theatre
in New York City to see the premiere of "Star Wars: Attack of the Clones" (05/17/02). Miffed, as
usual, Triumph has come loaded for bear.


To set the mood and tone of the present post, love, I turn to Etta James' 1960 cover of "At Last",
which was originally written for the 1941 movie "Sun Valley Serenade" and recorded by Glenn Miller
in 1942. La canción ha aparecido, como usted debe saber, en innumerables películas y versionada
por innumerables artistas, pero este original no tiene precio:


"Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:

O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wand'ring bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.

Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come;
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom:

If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved."

"Sonnet 116" William Shakespeare

So, the subject of this post is love, but does not try to define its attributes or define the undefinable.
Instead, we look at love in both song and film from three perspectives: declaration, expression, and
reflection. And, as in previous posts, the strategy taken is pansexual in outlook so that all persuasions
and orientations are treated fairly and equally.

1. Declarations. In the 1958 Vincente Minnelli movie version of the musical "Gigi" filmed around the
French capital, we find Gaston Lachaille (Louis Jourdan) torn between his conventional proclivities
as a perennial suitor and his growing attachment to Gigi several years his junior. At this point in the
film, we see him wandering about in confusion and the final realization that he has fallen in love. It's
almost as if he can't believe it himself, pero es una demostración del poder del amor.


'"The Children's Hour' is a 1934 American play by Lillian Hellman. It is a drama set in an all-girls
boarding school run by two women, Karen Wright and Martha Dobie. An angry student, Mary
Tilford, runs away from the school and to avoid being sent back, she tells her grandmother that the
two headmistresses are having a lesbian affair. The accusation proceeds to destroy the women's
careers, relationships and lives.

The play was first staged on Broadway at the Maxine Elliott Theatre in 1934, produced and directed
by Herman Shumlin. In 1936, it was presented in Paris and at London's Gate Theatre Studio."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Child ... our_(play)

This 1961 clip is dubbed the "Coming Out Scene", and, as you will see, it is fraught with terror, but,
at the same time, a declaration of love that was strong and long overdue.


Finally, here is a reprise of "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" [Rodgers and Hart for the 1940
Broadway musical "Pal Joey"], as performed in Alan Bennett's "The History Boys" OST by Samuel
Barnett after his (Posner's) "I'm a Jew...I live in Sheffield...." "confessional". He summons up the
courage to sing this love song (to Dakin) in class (!), and, together with impeccable piano
accompaniment, es impresionante ("These Magic Moments" Part II, this forum).


2. Expressions. Here, we'll look at passion, but as a constant rekindling of love, a tool, if you will,
that keeps the fires of desire burning, el instrumento que mantiene fuerte a la unión.

[Pet Shop Boys, Tennant/Lowe "Heart" from the album Actually] "This was originally written by
Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe during sessions for their first album Please in 1986. The duo intended
to offer this to Madonna or Hi-NRG singer Hazell Dean but they eventually decided to record it
themselves." ).


"Thematically, "Heart" is simply a confession, 'quite sweet and sincere' according to Neil, of how deeply in love the narrator is—his 'heart starts missing a beat' every time he sees the object of his affections. Neil has
also described it as 'a very warm song,' and Chris has noted that it's 'not ironic at all."'


"Every time I hear your heart beat next to me
I'm in love with you
I mean what I say
I'm in love with you
and you don't know
what it means to be with you

Every time I see you
no matter what we do
there's a strange reaction
Can you feel it too?"


Directed by Claude Lelouch and starring Anouk Aimée, Jean-Louis Trintignant, and Pierre Barouh,
the 1966 film "Un homme et une femme" tells the tale of "a young widow and widower who meet by chance at their children's boarding school and whose budding relationship is complicated by the memories of their deceased spouses. The film is notable for its lush photography, which features frequent segues between full color, black-and-white, and sepia-toned shots, and for its memorable musical score by Francis Lai."

You will see and hear this in the clip that follows.


In my post "Breakups", the FADE OUT featured the film "Beautiful Thing". You can read the
backstory there. Here, we see Jamie and Ste early on in their burgeoning romance. It's a sleepover
punctuated by one compelling question : "Can I touch you?" Although I cannot understand some of
the English, I am forewarning the potential of language issues. The humanity of the content, however,
overrides such concerns and so I'm posting the clip. Esas preocupaciones aparte, verán que la acción habla más fuerte que las palabras.


Like "Break 4 Love", "Fly Me To The Moon" has had a storied history. The song was written in
1954 and first recorded in 1954 by Kaye Ballard. But in 1964, Frank Sinatra covered this song in the
album "It Might As Well Be Swing", and you will see the results in this clip, as he sings live in St.
Louis in 1965. Your experience will be enriched if you replay "Heart" and, perhaps, then further
enriched by reading my post "Comparisons Redux: Chris, Neil and Frank", this forum.


"Years & Years vocalist Olly Alexander wrote this song about his boyfriend Neil Arnin-Smith, who is
the violinist in the group Clean Bandit. The lyrics evoke the dizzying experience of falling in love as
we hear Alexander murmur, "It's you that I've been waiting to find," over shimmering, glittery synth

The music video finds the Years & Years trio in a mysterious house as they wander into a glaring
light. Olly Alexander explained that, "the song is about the overwhelming and unstable feeling of
falling in love and we wanted to use light to represent that feeling. We wanted the light to be this
powerful supernatural force and we took inspiration from films like ET, Poltergeist and Close

[Years & Years, "Shine" songwriters Olly Alexander, Emre Turkmen, Michael Goldsworthy, Greg
Kurstin, from the album Communion, 2015]

"It's shaking the sky
And I'm following lightning
I'll recover if you keep me alive
Don't leave me behind
Can you see me I'm shining
And it's you that I've been waiting to find
I'm holding it all tonight
I'm folding it all tonight
You know that you make it shine
And it's you that I've been waiting to find
I'm holding it all tonight
I'm folding it all tonight
You know that you make it shine
It's you that I've been waiting to find"


"A Summer Place" directed by Delmer Daves was released in the U.S. on 18 November 1959. That
year was pivotal in that the 1960s would usher in French New Wave and many steamy romantic
movies in the U.S. But in 1959, we see the last vestiges of the old conflicts play out in this movie
with Richard Egan (Ken Jorgenson), as the hopeless romantic, Dorothy McGuire (Sylvia Hunter), as
the iron wall of prudery and resistance, and the two lovers, Molly Jorgenson (Sandra Dee) and
Johnny Hunter (Troy Donahue). In the first clip, we'll gain an appreciation of love taking root
between Molly and Johnny in stills reflective of Pine Island, Maine, against the Percy Faith/Max
Steiner score.


But here's what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object:


y el árbol de Navidad se derrumba:


"Les chansons d'amour", directed by Christophe Honoré, was released May 23, 2007, and stars
Louis Garrel, Gregoire Leprince-Ringuet, Ludivine Sagnier, Clotilde Hesme, and Chiara Mastroianni.

IMDb summarizes the backstory as follows:
"Ismael (Louis Garrel, the Gallic version of the adorable young Hugh Grant) lives with Julie (Ludivine
Sagnier). Alice (Clotilde Hesme), who works with Ismael, shares their bed and Alice's affections. On
a night of tragedy, Jeanne (Chiara Mastroianni), unawares, hooks up with Gwendal (Yannick Renier),
whose teenaged brother Erwann (Gregoire Leprince-Ringuet) is the only one who can bring a
shattered Ismael back to life, in the most romantic man-on-man love scene since Rupert Grave's Alec
Scudder climbed through Maurice's bedroom window 20 years ago. With rain-slicked streets, coffee
and cigarettes, references to a dozen French classics, a haunting score and the best balcony scene
since "Romeo and Juliet," this low-budget charmer, which has become a cult favorite in France with
the under-25 set, is an "Umbrellas of Cherbourg" for the 21st Century." Louis Garrel sings "Ma
Mèmoire Sale"


"Heaven, I'm in heaven
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak
And I seem to find the happiness I seek
When we're out together dancing cheek to cheek
Heaven, I'm in heaven
And the cares that hung around me through the week
Seem to vanish like a gambler's lucky streak
When we're out together dancing (swinging) cheek to cheek"

[Irving Berlin wrote "Cheek To Cheek" for the 1935 Fred Astaire/[24-year-old]Ginger Rogers
(nicknamed 'Feathers' for the dress she wore) movie "Top Hat". Fred sings the song and then the
two begin an unforgettable routine that emulates courtship and says 'I love you' in dance. In the clip
that follows, note how Ginger's dance steps are equal to those of Fred, but backwards and wearing
high heels!]


3. Reflections

Wayne Studer says this of "Leaving" [Tennant /Lowe, Elysium, 2012]:
"Although the narrator acknowledges the death of this love affair, he nevertheless grasps hold of his
belief in, essentially, "life after death" for love: "I can still find some hope to believe in love." And on
the song goes in this vein, a rumination on how even something or someone "dead" remains, in some
senses, very much alive:

… the dead are here to stay
They made us who we are
They're with us every day

Neil was undoubtedly thinking of his parents when he wrote those lines. But, all the same, they apply
equally well to our love affairs, which also shape us and continue to influence us even after they've
passed on."


James Cameron directed this 1997 film (released in 1998 worldwide), "Titanic", starring Leo
DiCaprio as 17-year-old Jack Dawson and Kate Winslet as the young Rose Dewitt Bukater. We begin
("You jump, I jump") when the ship has struck the iceberg on April 14, 1912 and sinks on April 15th.
Jack dies, but Rose survives, and when she reaches Carpathia Immigration, she is so distraught she
says her name is Rose Dawson. La secuencia de sueños muestra la fuerza de ese vínculo 84 años
https://www.filmibeat.com/hollywood/mov ... story.html



'"Stardust" is a popular song composed in 1927 by Hoagy Carmichael with lyrics added by Mitchell
Parish in 1929. Carmichael recorded the song, originally titled "Star Dust", at the Gennett studio in
Richmond, Indiana. The song... became an American standard and is one of the most recorded
songs of the 20th century with over 1,500 recordings."


As part of Reflections, this is Willie Nelson's interpretation of "Stardust":


"When The Night Comes Falling From The Sky" was written by Bob Dylan (Empire Burlesque,
1985) and covered in 1989 by Jeff Healey in the movie "Roadhouse."

"For all eternity I think I will remember
That icy wind that's howling in your eye
You will seek me and you'll find me
In the wasteland of your mind
When the night comes falling
When the night comes falling
When the night comes falling from the sky."


"One For My Baby (and One More For The Road)" is a hit song written by Harold Arlen and Johnny
Mercer for the movie musical The Sky's the Limit (1943) and first performed in the film by Fred
Astaire. It was further popularized by Frank Sinatra.

Harold Arlen described the song as "another typical Arlen tapeworm" – a "tapeworm" being the trade
slang for any song which went over the conventional 32 bar length. He called it "a wandering song."
[Lyricist] Johnny [Mercer] took it and wrote it exactly the way it fell. Not only is it long – forty-eight
bars – but it also changes key. Johnny made it work." In the opinion of Arlen's biographer, Edward
Jablonski, the song is "musically inevitable, rhythmically insistent, and in that mood of 'metropolitan
melancholic beauty' that writer John O'Hara finds in all of Arlen's music."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_for_M ... _the_Road)

Y aquí, al cerrar Reflexiones, Sinatra cuenta la historia en vivo en el Royal Festival Hall en 1962:



"That '70s Musical" (April 30, 2002) "Happy Together"

"It's Fez's big night. He is participating in a school concert and wants the whole gang to be there.
Sadly, it is becoming apparent to him that his friends have grown farther away. The episode is filled
with Fez's idea of what life should be like filled with song and dance. Hilarious renditions of "The
Joker", "Love Hurts", and other popular songs of the era included." (IMDb synopsis)


(Pet Shop Boys -" Love Comes Quickly" - Live @ Wembley 1989):


“It is that we are never so defenseless against suffering as when we love, never so helplessly unhappy

as when we have lost our loved object or its love.” Sigmund Freud , Civilization and its Discontents
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#2 Post by Patrick Bateman » Sun 29 Sep 2019, 8:22 pm


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#3 Post by Nicholas » Sun 29 Sep 2019, 9:15 pm

👁 ♥️ 🐑

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#4 Post by Bulldog » Sun 29 Sep 2019, 10:09 pm

You're so persistent in your mistakes you could coach AC Milan.
"It was a dark and stormy night."
"You know what's wrong with your stories? They lack subtlety."
"It was a sort of dark and kind of stormy night."

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#5 Post by ArtHist » Sun 29 Sep 2019, 10:14 pm

Strangely enough, I find this thread less baffling than the story about Fuzzbox someone has revealed elsewhere on this forum.

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#6 Post by onzio » Mon 30 Sep 2019, 9:45 am

This time we got a double FADE OUT!!!
Expressing passion, explaining pain
This is my kind of music

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#7 Post by leesmapman » Mon 30 Sep 2019, 10:06 am

onzio wrote:
Mon 30 Sep 2019, 9:45 am
This time we got a double FADE OUT!!!
I noticed it too. This is huge.

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#8 Post by PETHEAD72 » Mon 30 Sep 2019, 1:20 pm

onzio wrote:
Mon 30 Sep 2019, 9:45 am
This time we got a double FADE OUT!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You got a heart of glass or a heart of stone?

Oi!...got far to go have you?!... :lol:

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#9 Post by Markpro » Wed 02 Oct 2019, 7:16 am

ArtHist wrote:
Sun 29 Sep 2019, 10:14 pm
Strangely enough, I find this thread less baffling than the story about Fuzzbox someone has revealed elsewhere on this forum.
Sorry...think that was me, just remove "Fuzzbox" from that post and replace with "L7", :D
I've been a Teenager since before you were born.

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#10 Post by Pod » Fri 11 Oct 2019, 10:46 pm

Different post, usual dogs**t.
Just for the sake of it, make sure you're always frowning. :|
It shows the world that you've got substance and depth.

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