What’s truly “missing” from the Further Listening discs?

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#31 Post by retrofuturist »

Greetings,
lalolalo wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024, 7:03 pm And, on subject, have you seen the cringey reel of Bono singing Happy birthday to Michael Douglas?
Man that guy keeps fitting How can you expect to be taken seriously?? even 35 years later.
Has anyone ever asked the boys whether it's more than just coincidence that a song seemingly about Bono is a double A-side with their cover of a U2 song? If it's an in-joke that they never let on about, it's a pretty hilarious one.

But yes, the Brothers In Rhythm 12" is one of my all time favourite Pet Shop Boys tracks and a sure-starter on any "best of" PSB CDR I'd pull together. (I don't do playlists, and I doubt it would even be on Spotify, would it?)

Retro. :)
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Dog wrote: Sun 29 Sep 2024, 12:41 pm 1. The tracks would have to be what they considered to be recordings of “master quality”
2. They would include their own twelve-inch mixes
3. They would not include remixes by other people
4. They would sequence the tracks in the chronological order in which they were recorded
5. If the CD time was over 78 minutes they’d jettison those tracks which they thought seemed redundant, less interesting or which they particularly disliked
I instantly thought about two tracks that could fit the rules: Bounce (Introspective) and Only Love (Release). They kind of missed it to release them.

As for Bounce, it is mentioned in the booklet of the Introspective FL. When they thought about about expanding the batch with the 2017 releases, they may have considered to include it (maybe some Liza/Dusty Demoes as well?).

Only Love is a track that was considered "quite good" by Neil. But Release already has 2 CDs of FL and maybe they keep it to work on it in the future. The last thought is only a possibility of course.
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Little Red Dress was obviously scrapped for the FL releases due to copyright clearing.

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After seeing the tracklisting for Release, I really felt like the sets for Nightlife and Yes were a bit lacking. Would've loved to see some of the Montage mixes on Nightlife and perhaps the Yes etc. mixes on Yes.

Now that I know their singles will be reissued digitally at some point (fingers crossed for the video version of Seriously!), I think I'd be more interested in unreleased material for the Further Listening sets. Really looking forward to the sets for the x2 albums, if they eventuate.

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domino wrote:
Dog wrote: Sun 29 Sep 2024, 12:41 pm 1. The tracks would have to be what they considered to be recordings of “master quality”
2. They would include their own twelve-inch mixes
3. They would not include remixes by other people
4. They would sequence the tracks in the chronological order in which they were recorded
5. If the CD time was over 78 minutes they’d jettison those tracks which they thought seemed redundant, less interesting or which they particularly disliked
I instantly thought about two tracks that could fit the rules: Bounce (Introspective) and Only Love (Release). They kind of missed it to release them.

As for Bounce, it is mentioned in the booklet of the Introspective FL. When they thought about about expanding the batch with the 2017 releases, they may have considered to include it (maybe some Liza/Dusty Demoes as well?).

Only Love is a track that was considered "quite good" by Neil. But Release already has 2 CDs of FL and maybe they keep it to work on it in the future. The last thought is only a possibility of course.
Only Love is unfinished, so maybe it will appear fully formed someday. In the FL booklet they say they’ve never recorded Bounce properly, so again maybe they will come back to it.
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leesmapman wrote:Little Red Dress was obviously scrapped for the FL releases due to copyright clearing.

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Yes you’re right. I think they said as much at the time; I’d forgotten.
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Dog wrote: Wed 02 Oct 2024, 6:52 am […] In the FL booklet they say they’ve never recorded Bounce properly, so again maybe they will come back to it.
On the other hand, Neil refers to YouTube when it come to unreleased material. (As much as I'd love for Bounce to see the light of day. ;) )

If they wanted to release it on the FL disc, they would've recorded it, like they did with the demo of So Sorry, I Said.
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#38 Post by DopeFiend »

Nothing is missing from them, but they could have a further expanded version of the albums.
Look at any other artist. Demos, rehearsals, live versions, other unreleased songs (Bounce, You've Got to Start Somewhere), alt versions, unreleased remixes, instrumentals, and so on. There is a plethora of yet to be released material from each and every album and era.

I think they should scrap the FL series and just bring out a left of field ultra expanded deluxe version of the 80s albums.
90s albums to be considered also. (I won't complain in the 2000s albums are given the same treatment)

Look at SAW they released versions of albums with only the backing vocals present with the instrumentals.
They could easily re-do their FL albums with different tracks. Even if the material is a bit rough.
I mean imagine New Boy, Everybody Will Dance, It's Not A Crime in their original glory. And the whole 'Please Return Tape' ep released including In The Club Or In The Queue and the high-RNG version of Rent.
Oh, and I want to hear the motown version of It's a Sin!

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I respect their commitment to quality control.
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Dog wrote: Sat 05 Oct 2024, 5:03 pm I respect their commitment to quality control.
i would hardly call it quality control.

they've made tons of mistakes on recent releases,
the best of, the video releases, and many more things.

the singles seem to be ok, and most of the albums.

but i would hardly call it quality control.

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negative_0ne wrote:
Dog wrote: Sat 05 Oct 2024, 5:03 pm I respect their commitment to quality control.
i would hardly call it quality control.

they've made tons of mistakes on recent releases,
the best of, the video releases, and many more things.

the singles seem to be ok, and most of the albums.

but i would hardly call it quality control.

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I meant their commitment to the quality of their songwriting and recording over 40 years, and to not cluttering up their catalogue with substandard material.
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