PSB CDRs. Do we trust?

[lalolalo]

Lately I've had the chance of buying a pretty rare promo Pet shop boys cdr and I'm having some doubts since...
Is there a way to be 100% sure it's not just a burned copy? Since you know, cdrs promo editions are not that visually striking.

[VRIDD]

Does your cdr at least contain full quality tracks?

Recently I found myself in a similar situation and, moreover, the track was just mp3 quality!! Many many doubts!!

[jasonjohn]

The original CDR is itself burned, so impossible to know?

Even factory-pressed CDs can be pirated these days, since the technology is more common today and more people have access.

IMO every physical release should come with a lock of Neil's hair for authentication.

[y3potential]

The original CDR is itself burned, so impossible to know?

Even factory-pressed CDs can be pirated these days, since the technology is more common today and more people have access.

IMO every physical release should come with a lock of Neil's hair for authentication.

That maybe difficult these days. Those curls are long gone...

[oakey]

Tricky. I have mentioned it in other threads but I am a huge fan of all physical products, but I would be extremely wary of buying old CDRs, which is what these promos are (if genuine). If for manufacturing the CDRs the most common silver dye was used, life expectancy is about 10-20 years. Gold dye CDRs last much longer, but not sure what type was used for these promos.

None of the CDR audio releases I have bought over the years still play (I believe the oldest was one I bought in 2003/4 or so? 10 years later it indeed did not play anymore). In another thread people mentioned the live Erasure CDRs that still play, so it's not a given, but still (all my discs are stored properly, in their case, not in the sun etc).

And yes, you can make digital copies when the disc still plays, but why purchase such an expensive physical promo then, if there's no artwork and nothing else that distinguishes fake from original?

For those interested: online there are plenty of topics and articles on the life expectancy of CDRs (and other discs for that matter). I have never had play issues with manufactured (read only) CDs (the oldest I have also date back from the early 80s), several DVDs that did not play anymore (the "laser rot" issue, eg Tina live in Arnhem) and relatively many bluray discs that do not play anymore, especially those manufacured between 2008-2012 (a-ha's Ending on a high note, Kylie X, several movies). A few cassettes (as in MC) suffer from echo due to the tape print-through over the years. I recently watched my VHS copy of Highlights (a friend cleared out his attic and found an old VHS player, so I connected it), which seemed well preserved, but still pretty unwatchable on a modern-day 65" plasma screen due to the poor quality of the medium itself. Vinyl is the medium that will last longest. And digital, provided multiple backups are made, as they have to be stored somewhere of course, and that storage is always physical (even in the cloud).

[DopeFiend]

A reminder, this forum is for discussing Pet Shop Boys.
This is again another off-topic thread.

[lalolalo]

A reminder, this forum is for discussing Pet Shop Boys.
This is again another off-topic thread.

Sorry man you're right. I forgot to add that it is a Pet shop boys Cdr. I'll update the first message. Thanks for the heads up.

[lalolalo]

Tricky. I have mentioned it in other threads but I am a huge fan of all physical products, but I would be extremely wary of buying old CDRs, which is what these promos are (if genuine). If for manufacturing the CDRs the most common silver dye was used, life expectancy is about 10-20 years. Gold dye CDRs last much longer, but not sure what type was used for these promos.

None of the CDR audio releases I have bought over the years still play (I believe the oldest was one I bought in 2003/4 or so? 10 years later it indeed did not play anymore). In another thread people mentioned the live Erasure CDRs that still play, so it's not a given, but still (all my discs are stored properly, in their case, not in the sun etc).

And yes, you can make digital copies when the disc still plays, but why purchase such an expensive physical promo then, if there's no artwork and nothing else that distinguishes fake from original?

For those interested: online there are plenty of topics and articles on the life expectancy of CDRs (and other discs for that matter). I have never had play issues with manufactured (read only) CDs (the oldest I have also date back from the early 80s), several DVDs that did not play anymore (the "laser rot" issue, eg Tina live in Arnhem) and relatively many bluray discs that do not play anymore, especially those manufacured between 2008-2012 (a-ha's Ending on a high note, Kylie X, several movies). A few cassettes (as in MC) suffer from echo due to the tape print-through over the years. I recently watched my VHS copy of Highlights (a friend cleared out his attic and found an old VHS player, so I connected it), which seemed well preserved, but still pretty unwatchable on a modern-day 65" plasma screen due to the poor quality of the medium itself. Vinyl is the medium that will last longest. And digital, provided multiple backups are made, as they have to be stored somewhere of course, and that storage is always physical (even in the cloud).

This is really helpful. Great information. Thanks a lot. Buy the way the cdr I've got my eye on has some kind of an artwork and it's pretty recognized among the PSB community but again, it definitely could be made with a printer and a burner.
Thanks for the reply and heads up. Include some mention to Pet shop boys on your post so you don't get the off-topic police on you.

[leesmapman]

I've stopped collecting CD-Rs altogether. I do have one or two from 2000, which amazingly still work, but I don't bother anymore. They could be fake anyway. There was a whole bunch of Brick England CD-R promos on discogs, ebay, ect., I really don't trust it.

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