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Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 12:34 pm
by kimphilby
Produced by Pet Shop Boys
Written by R.Williams, N.Tennant and C.Lowe
They are the credits I want to see at #1 in Music Week when She's Madonna is released as a single.

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 1:37 pm
by gareth
BlueSwan wrote:She's Madonna is a nice song, but produced like a demo. Infact, this whole project sounds like a low-budget offering, which is strange coming from one of the worlds biggest popstars.
Hi mate

I know you make music (and very well too) but just wondered if you could explain what you mean?

She's Madonna sounds flawless to me - and the rest of the album, which admittedly has it's "raw" moments, doesn't sound like a demo to my ears.

Cheers

Gareth

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 3:07 pm
by Bulldog
What the hell does he say in that weird monologue at the end of "She's Madonna"?

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 3:21 pm
by kimphilby
Where are people hearing the track?
PM please.

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 3:32 pm
by drunk14
,,Mama was the queen of mambo :D....'' Bongo-Bong-Je..is great song, form the best vs She's Madonna, The 80, Summertime and Rudebox

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 3:38 pm
by gareth
bobo wrote:What the hell does he say in that weird monologue at the end of "She's Madonna"?
It's not printed with the other lyrics in the booklet - This Used To Be My Playground definitely gets a mention though!

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 3:52 pm
by Tomas
http://www.exposay.com/robbie-williams- ... ck/v/3888/

Old news (?), I know, but I haven't noticed it here?

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 6:01 pm
by BlueSwan
This album is borderline commercial suicide. That doesn't mean it's bad - it's easily far better than "Intensive Care". It's just utterly uncommercial and lowbudget sounding and there are no obvious singles in sight outside of "Rudebox", which even got an undeserved poor reception. In short, it sounds like a b-side collection - some off the wall tracks which doesn't really fit in with each other.

Robbie doesn't really need obvious hits though, it's more worrying that several of these tracks will scare off his MOR audience.

I'm afraid that this will be the lowest selling RW album to date. There really aren't any singles other than "Rudebox" on it, and even that got a very poor

On another topic, forget "She''s Madonna" as a single, it's sooo not a single, unless it is remixed. The production sounds like a home studio 90's recording. The song is good though. I hope it is remixed and released.

I really really hope that the album does well and that we'll get more experimental albums from Robbie in the future. I don't really see it happening. Instead, this might prove the end of Robbie's imperial phase, although there's no talk of the dumper at all.

I still defend "Rudebox" as the first single. It was a big gamble, but one that could have turned out well, just like Rock DJ was a gamble. Rudebox could have been a massive 5-week #1 single, but for some reason the public wasn't ready for it. You really never know with those types of catchy and hip, but slightly off-the-wall singles. I put it in the same category as Madonna's "Music" and Kylie's "Slow, and indeed Robbie's own "Rock DJ". When it works, it REALLY works. It at least has to be tried.

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 6:07 pm
by kimphilby
On another topic, forget "She''s Madonna" as a single, it's sooo not a single, unless it is remixed. The production sounds like a home studio 90's recording. The song is good though. I hope it is remixed and released.
There seems to be some conflicting reports of She's Madonna. In several places I've read "definite #1", but those here who've heard it say "under-produced" and "not single material". Who's reliable at judging hit-potential?
BlueSwan

Rudebox could have been a massive 5-week #1 single
Not Blueswan!

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 6:23 pm
by Bulldog
This should be his "Bilingual".

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 6:28 pm
by BlueSwan
kimphilby wrote:There seems to be some conflicting reports of She's Madonna. In several places I've read "definite #1", but those here who've heard it say "under-produced" and "not single material". Who's reliable at judging hit-potential?
I am! :dance:

Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006, 6:38 pm
by kimphilby
I just heard it. It's brilliant. A big hit.

Posted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 5:25 pm
by mantooth
I quite enjoy the bit on "Good Doctor" where he is rattling off all the drugs he wants. Mostly just for the way he says "But not St. John's Wort, cuz I can get that at Booooots!" at the end. :D

Posted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 5:27 pm
by Native
I love the bit in 'The Actor' where he lists the famous people. Didn't PSB have this idea? D-D-D-D Dame Judi Dench.

Posted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 5:41 pm
by Darkmoon
BlueSwan wrote:This album is borderline commercial suicide. That doesn't mean it's bad - it's easily far better than "Intensive Care". It's just utterly uncommercial and lowbudget sounding and there are no obvious singles in sight outside of "Rudebox", which even got an undeserved poor reception. In short, it sounds like a b-side collection - some off the wall tracks which doesn't really fit in with each other.

Robbie doesn't really need obvious hits though, it's more worrying that several of these tracks will scare off his MOR audience.

I'm afraid that this will be the lowest selling RW album to date. There really aren't any singles other than "Rudebox" on it, and even that got a very poor

On another topic, forget "She''s Madonna" as a single, it's sooo not a single, unless it is remixed. The production sounds like a home studio 90's recording. The song is good though. I hope it is remixed and released.

I really really hope that the album does well and that we'll get more experimental albums from Robbie in the future. I don't really see it happening. Instead, this might prove the end of Robbie's imperial phase, although there's no talk of the dumper at all.

I still defend "Rudebox" as the first single. It was a big gamble, but one that could have turned out well, just like Rock DJ was a gamble. Rudebox could have been a massive 5-week #1 single, but for some reason the public wasn't ready for it. You really never know with those types of catchy and hip, but slightly off-the-wall singles. I put it in the same category as Madonna's "Music" and Kylie's "Slow, and indeed Robbie's own "Rock DJ". When it works, it REALLY works. It at least has to be tried.
I totally disagree with everything you wrote. I wouldn't be surprised if this album will be a HUGE succes. It isn't produced as B-sides to my ears. It sounds very spontaneous and you can hear the fun he must've had in the studio. Rudebox is a weak track imo, it's not a very good melody. There's a few singles on here. (edits of...) The actor, She's Madonna, King of Bongo, Viva life on Mars, Kiss me is the obvious single (though a 'tad' cheap). I think it will be a smash. Already enjoying the album more then any other of his'.