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Oooh look who has appeared in a PSB thread abot charts. It's that huge fan of theirspulse wrote:
The bottom line is that a band with so much PR, marketing, the Brit fireworks, advertising, print/web articles, magazine covers, airplay (A-listed on the UK's biggest radio station) et al should (and will) crack the top 20. It doesn't make sense. I'd hate to be Undertaker right now, thinking this potential relative flop may result in Bob the Weatherman producing the next PSB album. Who cares where it will chart!? It's a good song and the album is better than any since the mid 90's. Chillax.
You guys are one big circus - a two-ring circus, at that. Instead of enjoying the band's new art, some of you are acting like stock traders running around the stock market like heads with their chickens cut off.
Well said. I agree completely. Singles aren't a money-making tool in themselves anymore. They haven't been in many, many years. They're all about exposing a song from the album in the hopes that people will buy the album. I'd love to see them in the Top 10 with the single, but I won't be worried if they don't. As you say, it's all about the performance of the *album*. Even if that doesn't do well, at least we have some wonderful music from the guys again. I really hope it's a commercial success though.Undertaker wrote:Oooh look who has appeared in a PSB thread abot charts. It's that huge fan of theirspulse wrote:
The bottom line is that a band with so much PR, marketing, the Brit fireworks, advertising, print/web articles, magazine covers, airplay (A-listed on the UK's biggest radio station) et al should (and will) crack the top 20. It doesn't make sense. I'd hate to be Undertaker right now, thinking this potential relative flop may result in Bob the Weatherman producing the next PSB album. Who cares where it will chart!? It's a good song and the album is better than any since the mid 90's. Chillax.
You guys are one big circus - a two-ring circus, at that. Instead of enjoying the band's new art, some of you are acting like stock traders running around the stock market like heads with their chickens cut off.
Thanks for the mention by the way. Just to put you straight again (this is getting a regular habit) First of all, the single is selling a similar amount to what they usually sell. The fact that single sales have gone up 300% in 3 years and PSB are mainly a fan base act, their position will be lower than normal because everyone else is selling more. Dare i say it, but Erasure found this out with Always 2009, which failed to get into the top 200. Also, whichever way you slice it, the CD1 especially, is hardly available.
Furthermore, singles are not released to make money. They seldom do. They are their to promote the album. If 'Yes' fails to make the top 20, then we should be worried and it will probably mean the next album will be produced in a wooden hut.
For what it's worth, it's the performance of Yes which ultimately matters and I think we can say with confidence that it will be PSB's biggest selling studio album for some time, hopefully since Very. So from that point of view, the success - or failure - of Love Etc should prove to be irrelevant.pulse wrote: No, "Love, Etc" wouldn't get airplay on Radio 1, but perhaps you should ask Skyhigh to restate his comments about the incredible (shedloads) amount of publicity PSB has been getting. Resultantly, this is working itself into a massive commercial disaster.
You know, you can't have your cake and eat it. It's enough to watch you fall into apologist mode. Once again, one person says something, then another discredits him accidentally by default of defence. Something doesn't sell, and distribution problems are to blame... or it's a sales-heavy week... or it was released with too much competition... or digital sales are now too high... or Satanic anti-PSB rabbits are keeping the hardcore fanbase from shopping... etc.
The bottom line is that a band with so much PR, marketing, the Brit fireworks, advertising, print/web articles, magazine covers, airplay (A-listed on the UK's biggest radio station) et al should (and will) crack the top 20. It doesn't make sense. I'd hate to be Undertaker right now, thinking this potential relative flop may result in Bob the Weatherman producing the next PSB album. Who cares where it will chart!? It's a good song and the album is better than any since the mid 90's. Chillax.
You guys are one big circus - a two-ring circus, at that. Instead of enjoying the band's new art, some of you are acting like stock traders running around the stock market like heads with their chickens cut off.
Ooh, that's encouraging! If only they had a TV performance at some point this week. Grrrr!Kris wrote:Yep, as I just wrote in an edited post above, Love Etc has climbed to #17.
Let's hope LE hasn't peaked digitally. although a good indicator, itunes is not the only download site that counts towards the final singles chart.Kris wrote:pulse wrote:
EDIT: Love Etc is up to #17 after yesterday's sales so that's better news. Having said that, I think it's now peaked on iTunes so digital sales may dwindle from now on. Let's hope EMI and HMV can get their respective acts together and re-stock the CDs.
There's a level of buzz and excitement around the release that I haven't seen since the Very era. The vast majority of the fanbase who have heard the album absolutely love it and I think it will drag some of the lapsed fans out to buy it as well.kimphilby wrote:Let's hope LE hasn't peaked digitally. although a good indicator, itunes is not the only download site that counts towards the final singles chart.Kris wrote:pulse wrote:
EDIT: Love Etc is up to #17 after yesterday's sales so that's better news. Having said that, I think it's now peaked on iTunes so digital sales may dwindle from now on. Let's hope EMI and HMV can get their respective acts together and re-stock the CDs.
I also really hope you're right about Yes being their best selling album in a long while, so much more important than the singles chart.
However, what makes you so sure that Yes will be a success?
There's a level of buzz and excitement around the release that I haven't seen since the Very era. The vast majority of the fanbase who have heard the album absolutely love it and I think it will drag some of the lapsed fans out to buy it as well.kimphilby wrote:
I also really hope you're right about Yes being their best selling album in a long while, so much more important than the singles chart.
However, what makes you so sure that Yes will be a success?
Some of you guys are so sad to listen to.Minimalizm wrote:
So publicity machine leads to outside top 20
No publicity machine leads to outside top 200
I can feel your pride, Stephano.
I agree with kimphilby. Keep it in the dedicated Erasure-bashing thread in Off Topic.kimphilby wrote:Erasure have nothing to do with any post i ever make.
Am f***ing sick of reading about them on here. Bore off.