jamie1978 wrote: Mon 06 May 2024, 2:56 pm"the production is terrible"vincenzosz wrote: Sun 05 May 2024, 7:17 pmI feel for you. That would be disappointing. I loved the Stuart Price era, a lot of fun, well produced material from this long era.dylanww73 wrote: Sun 05 May 2024, 11:38 am
I felt similar about the last 3 albums which were a bit 'meh' for me overall, however I adore nonetheless and personally thinks it's a major return and I have 'my' PSB back.
Agree 100% about furthermore though.
I rarely like a PSB album on its own, I usually like half or more of the album and then enjoy about half of the b sides. I have about 200 songs by PSB that I listen to here and there, which is a lot more than most artists I enjoy but compared to the Pets output it’s not that much.
I became aware of the boys when Fundamental came out and then slowly absorbed their discography. Very has always been one I didn’t understand. I don’t enjoy the songwriting and the production is so loud and dated. I like urban Pet Shop Boys.
Anyways, so after the ups and downs of Yes and Elysium I found the Stuart Price era fresh! Though not without its flaws, my version of these albums are very different than the originals. But each era usually has an album worth of solid songs, even if they aren’t all on the album.
Nonetheless is like Very to me. The production is just terrible, compared to most any mainstream artist. And compared to any song produced by Stuart Price. I was hoping Neil and Chris would have gotten him to produce one of their slower albums. Sad Robot World and Burning the Heather are more sonically interesting and beautiful than anything on Nonetheless.
I’m really hoping we get a third and fourth single, which means some more b sides and remixes.
I stopped reading there. You are delusional - James Ford is recognised as one of the leading producers in the world today (this is a simple statement of fact).
Anyone with the slightest bit of music production knowledge would listen to Nonetheless and conclude that it's exceptionally well produced - in alignment with the sonic vision for the album they have already articulated (warm, analogue electronics with space to breathe + strings).
What you really mean is "I don't like it". That is NOT the same as "It's badly produced".
While everyone is entitled to an opinion, the force with which some people express utter nonsense continues to surprise me. Absolutely zero self-awareness.
The Transformers movies also make millions of dollars, it doesn’t make them good. Point being, I don’t care what a group (small or large believes) the production doesn’t sounds good.
It doesn’t sound warm, it sounds flat. It doesn’t sound lush, it sounds sparse. Disagree if you want. Listen to anything by Hans Zimmer, who uses a ton of strings and electronics. His music has depth, emotion, and it has a certain quality that can be heard. I’m not hearing that in this album.
I like the compositions, and the lyrics, but the production…nope. Maybe terrible is too strong a word, but it’s not great.
A good portion of synth sounds on this album sound very tinny and cheap, like they are a demo.
Compared to almost any synth song in my current rotation of music produced within the last six months it’s not good.
Leisure has better sounds, brothertiger has better sounds, conan gray has better sounds (and has much more interesting layering), heck even some Tee Lopes songs (intentionally retro sounding video game music) has better sounds.
The opening of A new Bohemia kind of makes me cringe, compared to what I’ve come to expect from the boys based on their previous 14 albums the production is a let down.
In addition, it’s lacking any surprises or oomph, it feels tired. I don’t mean in the tempo, I mean in the quality of production.
To my ears it doesn’t deliver on what they described and what the articles/reviews described was the sonic intention of the album.
