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Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 2:43 pm
by Dipso
To be honest, I will only buy the Robbie/PSB track in a physical format if I really like it.

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 3:05 pm
by dVTB
gareth wrote:
dVTB wrote: Numb is a fan-only release and I seriously fear that this song is going to be the first non-Top 20 single for Pet Shop Boys since Was It Worth It.
That's a little self-defeating surely? A fan release that a fan won't purchase because he thinks it won't reach the Top 20. There's been some speculation (as someone once said) - why don't we wait for 100% confirmation?
The possibility of the single not reaching the UK Top 20 is NOT the reason why I'm considering not to buy Numb cd1. As I wrote: I don't feel like paying money for a horribly mutilated version of a decent album track, combined with a live version of West End Girls, which I will buy 1 week later.

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 3:15 pm
by Drem
Eldritch wrote:I don't think it's a wise commercial move at all.
Yes, that's make sanse. Time will tell. And i'm agree with you about b-side, this must be "BYT" for lots of reasons (by the way, don't you think we should call this "double A-side" single because of "Concert" promotion :)?).
(With some help from my friends) i will buy it definitely in all formats.

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 3:48 pm
by patrick
Lleonard Pler wrote:It's fun seeing people that won't buy this PSB single but wouldn't hesitate to buy an expensive import CD by another artist who had a bonus track where Neil sang the backing vocals.
Apples and oranges.

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 3:52 pm
by gareth
dVTB wrote:
gareth wrote:
dVTB wrote: Numb is a fan-only release and I seriously fear that this song is going to be the first non-Top 20 single for Pet Shop Boys since Was It Worth It.
That's a little self-defeating surely? A fan release that a fan won't purchase because he thinks it won't reach the Top 20. There's been some speculation (as someone once said) - why don't we wait for 100% confirmation?
The possibility of the single not reaching the UK Top 20 is NOT the reason why I'm considering not to buy Numb cd1. As I wrote: I don't feel like paying money for a horribly mutilated version of a decent album track, combined with a live version of West End Girls, which I will buy 1 week later.
Naturally we are all entitled to an opinion, but I think "horribly mutiliated" is seriously wide of the mark - it either gets edited (rather well most seem to think, me included) or it doesn't get played on the radio and there would be no point releasing it all - so everyone misses out!

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 6:07 pm
by TheGardner
just got the information that EMI Germany INDEED is going to release 'Numb' in Germany also! Possible release date is October 20. and I guess it's a 'one disc release' again (very similar to Minimal).
I also think that this could be a "European release"! So watch out for it in NL, B, LUX, DK, N, S, F, ESP, P, I, SUI and AUT also!

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 6:21 pm
by Ronald42
I can comfirm a DUTCH release for

NUMB 12'' cat. nr. 0094637754115
NUMB CDm cat. nr. 0094637754108
NUMB CDs cat. nr. 0094637754122

Release date Somewhere in October. :wink:

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 6:22 pm
by TheGardner
thanks again for the cat# Ronald! :up:
Can anybody in UK check, if the release date is postphoned to October 23. ???? I have the strange feeling it is!!!

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Pet Shop Boys: Numb
  [23 Oct 2006] single

 Chart: UK #, DE #

   CD5: 2006 NL (Parlophone; NUMB01/0-0946-3-58335-2 2) [promo; 5 Sep 2006]
	  3:27	Numb (new radio version)
	  4:44	Numb (album version)

   CD5: 2006 NL (Parlophone; CDR 6723) [CD1; 23 Oct 2006]
   CD5: 2006 NL (Parlophone; 0-0946-3-77541-2 2) [CD1; 23 Oct 2006; Cardslv.]
	  3:27	Numb (new radio version)
	  ?:??	West End Girls (live at the mermaid theatre)

   CD5: 2006 NL (Parlophone; CDRS 6723/0-0946-3-77541-0 8) [CD2; 23 Oct 2006]
	  ?:??	Numb (original demo)
	  ?:??	Party Song
	  ?:??	Bright Young Things
	  ?:??	Numb (video)

   12": 2006 UK (Parlophone; 12R 6723/0-0946-3-77541-1 5) [23 Oct 2006]
	  4:44	Numb (album version)
	  ?:??	Numb (accapella)
	  ?:??	Psychological (ewan pearson vocal remix)

    7": 2006 UK (Parlophone; R 6723/0-0946-3-77???-? ?) [23 Oct 2006]
	  3:27	Numb (new radio version)
	  ?:??	Party Song

  [Remixers: Psychological]
	[Roman Flügel & Jörn Elling Wuttke (Alter Ego)]
	  7:13	Psychological (alter ego remix)
	[Ewan Pearson (Ewan Pearson)]
	  ?:??	Psychological (ewan pearson vocal remix)

  [Promotional Items: Numb]


Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 7:01 pm
by Ronald42
Your welcome. :)

The Numb CDs has the letters WLT next to it any clue to what those could mean?

Oh I know "wallet" iow cardboard sleeve

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 7:04 pm
by Drico One
dVTB wrote:For the first time in my 20 year history as a PSB fan, I seriously consider NOT to buy one of the formats of a new PSB single.
*Clears throat*

You're not a real fan.

Drico. :wink:

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 7:56 pm
by !
dVTB wrote:a horribly mutilated version of a decent album track
It isn't horribly mutilated at all! It's not as good as the album version but it's no way "horribly mutilated".

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 8:19 pm
by gomorrah
yes. horribly mutilated = Minimal radio edit.

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 8:55 pm
by Drico One
Let's be fair: chopping the complete second verse and the dramatic intro out of the song is a fair hatchet job at the best of times.

Drico.

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 9:52 pm
by !
Propertius wrote:(And was there a vinyl format for "Minimal"? I vaguely recall some kind of 12" released after the fact, but maybe I'm thinking of a promo.)
2x12" promos and a commercial 7" clear vinyl.

12" promo 1
A1. Minimal - Tiga's M-I-N-I-M-A-L remix
A2. Minimal - Tiga's M-I-N-I-M-A-L dub
B1. Minimal - Telex Hell remix
B2. Minimal - Telex Heaven remix

12" promo 2
A. Minimal - Tocadisco's Sunday at Space mix
B. Minimal - M Factor mix

7" clear vinyl http://www.discogs.com/release/738700
A. Minimal - radio edit
B. In private

Posted: Tue 19 Sep 2006, 10:17 pm
by PowerCorruptionAndLies
12" promo 2
A. Minimal - Tocadisco's Sunday at Space mix
B. Minimal - M Factor mix
This is almost certainly a bootleg. Unlike all contemporary PSB 12" promos it was pressed on lightweight vinyl in a single sleeve, had a strangely formatted catalogue number and no secondary numeric code, no printed labels and wasn't promo'd via usual EMI channels.


Missing secondary catalogue numbers for UK Numb issues are:
CDR 6723 / 0-0946-3-77541-2 2
R 6723 / 0-0946-3-77541-7 7