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It's easy. You can divide all these Erasure-vs-PSB debaters into 5 groups:

1: People who think Erasure are fantastic, and who don't like PSB.
2: People who like Erasure most, but quite like PSB too.
3: People who like both bands, approximately equal
4: People who like PSB most, but quite like Erasure too.
5: People who think PSB are fantastic, and who don't like Erasure.

I'm still a member of group 4. In the early 90's, I was close to group 3, but nowadays I'm closer to group 5 than to group 3.

Apart from this, I don't understand all the rivalry; it's completely unnecessary. And I kindly request people from group 1 to stop posting here.

I too have been in group 3, but today I'm definitely in group 4.

I'd say I'm in the lower part of Group 4.

I've always been in group 5

I'm a number 4, i guess. Their efforts of the past 10 years have been steadily getting worse. Personally, they need to take their time and stop releasing any old rushed effort. I thought this with LATEOTW and the atrocious Union Street and OPS. It was confirmed with the Sunday Girl video. I don't buy the excuse the t.v stations wouldn't play it. That shouldn't matter. If you have a die hard fan base, give them a proper video. Personally, the video's are what i look forward to most with a release that interests me.

Dave

Definitely a 2.

Here's a vid clip that makes up for the toilet crap a bit

http://youtube.com/watch?v=p9bAtKo2tow

ems wrote:Definitely a 2.

Here's a vid clip that makes up for the toilet crap a bit

http://youtube.com/watch?v=p9bAtKo2tow

This is a good one, but I like the video that Vince made.

I'm in Group 4.5 if that's of any use?

Went to see Erasure last night at the mighty Auditorium in Grimsby. It was a decent enough effort. Andy's vocals were excellent throughout. The 3 showgirls were a good feature and the back drop a nice glittery blue. The hits were the best moments by far but the new stuff didn't go down very well. I don't know what the white puppet thing was all about either. A decent crowd in though, which was about 1,300. The place was nearly full. It was better than the last time they were here. Although the show was nothing new and had all been seen before. The best part of it were the vocals.

Dave

pulse wrote:

homer1972 wrote:Back on topic..........................


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhfGOSqwpM

Always on TOTP 1994.

Ahhh... there will never be a more beautiful pop song written.

As for this hilarious claim to being the greatest song ever written (yeah, I know, you can't help but wonder what planet these people are on, eh?) these are the dazzling lyrics in full. Cover your eyes!:

Open your eyes I see
Your eyes are open
Wear no disguise for me
Come into the open

When its cold outside
Am I here in vain?
Hold on to the night
There will be no shame

Always
I wanna be with you
And make believe with you
And live in harmony harmony oh love

Melting the ice for me
Jump into the ocean
Hold back the tide I see
Your love in motion

When its cold outside
Am I here in vain?
Hold on to the night
There will be no shame

My 6-year old nephew could be more wordy and intelligent than that half-written bag of slush.

LOL! I read that this was claimed to be the best song written as well. It's a decent track but lets be honest, it's like a nursery rhyme.

I believe they are re-releasing this as a 'new' single. It's been rexixed but couldn't really see the point.

Lyrics do not have to be especially profound in order to make great pop:

The night we met I knew I needed you so
And if I had the chance I'd never let you go
So won't you say you love me
I'll make you so proud of me
We'll make 'em turn their heads
Every place we go
So won't you please

(Be my be my baby) Be my little baby
(I want it only say) Say you'll be my darling
(Be my be my baby) Be my baby now
(I want it only say) Ooh, ohh, ohh, oh

I'll make you happy, baby
Just wait and see
For every kiss you give me
I'll give you three
Oh, since the day I saw you
I have been waiting for you
You know I will adore you
Till eternity
So won't you please

(Be my be my baby) Be my little baby
(I want it only say) Say you'll be my darling
(Be my be my baby) Be my baby now
(I want it only say) Ooh, ohh, ohh, ohh, oh

So come on and please
(Be my be my baby) Be my little baby
(I want it only say) Say you'll be my darling
(Be my be my baby) Be my baby now
(I want it only say) Ooh, ohh, ohh, oh

(Be my be my baby) Be my little baby
(I want it only say) Ooh-oh-oh-oh, ooh-oh-oh-oh
(Be my be my baby) Oh-oh-oh, oohh...
(I want it only say) Oh, oh, oh, oh, oooohh...

Patrick Bateman wrote:Lyrics do not have to be especially profound in order to make great pop

True. No one is ever going to accuse Andy Bell of being profound, but you've pitched The Ronettes' classic Be My Baby against a weak, ineffectual lily-livered offering from a second-rate pop duo.

The former is one of the greatest and best-known singles of the Sixties, if not any decade. Even Brian Wilson has declared Be My Baby the greatest pop record ever made. It's regularly cited as the ultimate embodiment of Phil Spector's Wall of Sound, although I'd personally go for a certain Ike & Tina number from later that decade. And let's not forget Spector produced and co-wrote the music and lyrics. The lyrics, while nothing spectacular, do form a part of an overall musical experience but at least they're memorable, evocative and draw you in.

Always, by comparison, looks like Bell-End dashed off the lyrics in five minutes, in between another boy butter session, handed the rushed, trite and deeply unmemorable results over to Clarke who, in turn, handed the music over to Martin Ware to produce. Indeed, the production is probably the best thing about the song, but it's hardly up there with Spector's legendary offerings such as River Deep Mountain High or You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling, now is it?

Hand on heart, can you honestly say that it's a worthy contender for the "greatest song ever written"? Thought not...

''And live in harmony harmony oh love''

Didn't know he stuttered.

Undertaker wrote: harmony harmony

Oh, he filched that from McLaren's Buffalo Gals. Either that or he didn't know another word that sounded like harmony.

I wonder if he's ever heard of parsimony - considering how reckless and stupid he's been in his sexual life I'd guess probably not.