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Posted: Fri 16 Nov 2007, 5:46 pm
by glennjridge
the west is doing just fine.we arent bringing ourselves down.
we are allowing a eastern culture so much leeway in some misquided idea of moral equivelency that we are allowing the very intolerance you claim to dislike,because you have this delusion we are no better than the Islamic presidents views on jews.
I seriously doubt you hold your own police force to your bar of judgement when something happens in your neighborhood.
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 1:27 am
by pet shop boy
glenn, western governments are using and abusing foreigners to disrupt our society so we fight back and then western governments can then say, you're out of control, so we'll control you.
I mean, no one has absolute concreate proof of anyone intentionally commiting the acts of 9/11 / 7/7 to harm western society.
And IF there are muslim "extremists" out there wanting to destroy our societies, how hard is it, why dont they derail train lines, bomb the Embankment and flood the underground killing tens of thousands, doesn't make any sense.
And now they use the most pathetic excuse to scare us imaginable, "humans are destroying the planet with CO2", its hillarious.
Government pump fear into the populations minds and its swallowed up. People like gregf only believe these idiots cos their left wingers.
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 4:20 pm
by glennjridge
goverments dont have as much sway as people think they do about "scaring" the public. the government doesnt scare us at all. we laughed at our government when they did those color coded alerts on TV( red= terrorist attack imminant etc etc)
planes hi-jacked and buildings knocked down within a city block do however scare us hence why hardly anyone in our public throws a fit when our country sends bombers here or there.
we simply have different views on the 9/11 7/11 attacks. I believe they simply were attacks by terrorists. why they dont do more attacks could be because their turf is invaded at the moment and they busy fighting the invasion forces.
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 4:53 pm
by pet shop boy
glennjridge wrote:
goverments dont have as much sway as people think they do about "scaring" the public.
They are funded by billionaires, their able to manipulate the media.
Example. Today on BBC news 24, the second top story was about climate change, the new report (government funded) about how if we dont act now, were all going to suffer, that millions could very well die, it was ONLY second top story, ahead of a murder scene.
If GW/climate change is SOOOOOO big, why isnt it TOP story?
the government doesnt scare us at all.
Why are some people scared of bogus "terrorists", global warming, mad cows desease etc etc they may not scare you and me, but you or me aren't general societies guallable millions.
planes hi-jacked and buildings knocked down within a city block do however scare us hence why hardly anyone in our public throws a fit when our country sends bombers here or there.
Because people think they need protecting after they were scared into believing this?
we simply have different views on the 9/11 7/11 attacks. I believe they simply were attacks by terrorists.
Thats very true, the american and british governments are terrorists.
why they dont do more attacks could be because their turf is invaded at the moment and they busy fighting the invasion forces.
Theres supposedly "many thousands of terrorists on our streets", thats the impression our governments give us, that we need to take strong measures to defend ourselves from, so why dont these thousands of mad men and women blowing us up on a daily basis, simple
THEY DONT EXIST.
THINK, the 4 "7/7 bombers" only blew up trains and a bus killing ONLY 52 people, yet they could've murdered TENS OF THOUSANDS blowing the thames and flooding the London underground at rush hour.
These "terrorists" are either thick as shit or they dont exist.
Hardened terrorists who WANT TO KILL US AND OUR WAY OF LIFE, dont waste time driving a car into a airport, they KILL.
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 5:20 pm
by Undertaker
pet shop boy wrote:
THEY DONT EXIST.
THINK, the 4 "7/7 bombers" only blew up trains and a bus killing ONLY 52 people, yet they could've murdered TENS OF THOUSANDS blowing the thames and flooding the London underground at rush hour.
These "terrorists" are either thick as shit or they dont exist.
Hardened terrorists who WANT TO KILL US AND OUR WAY OF LIFE, dont waste time driving a car into a airport, they KILL.
Should we take this post seriously? What a load of bollox.
First of all you say ''only 52 people.'' How f****** ignorant. That's not just 52 people who died, it's 52 people's families who are also suffering.
Furthermore, these cowards who blew themselves up caused no end of panic and disruption. As did the smelly bastards that drove into the airport. It's a pity that one of the terrorists was helped. I wouldn't have wasted my p*ss on him.
Have you also not thought that maybe the intelligence in this country is pretty good and most scum are stopped before they get chance to kill.
''terrorists don't exist''

Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 5:42 pm
by glennjridge
yeah absolutily. its counterproductive to argue against people who believe in conspiracy theorys.
terrorists arent mythological beings along the lines of goblins and elves. they have a very lengthy history and they are trying. I dont know why they dont attack that target as opposed to this one.
I do know that they have such primitive views thats its a pointless debate, I only care that these countrys with this Islamic mindset should be kept in a constant state of military ruins.thankfully the US and britain essencially do that even if they are then branded terrorist countrys by a minority.
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 7:53 pm
by black
Deschanel wrote:So, those sluts don't enjoy being slaughtered with rocks, but clearly you approve. Is this Russia we're still talking about? Stoning adultereses? Whoa! You lot are worse than I thought.
As for gay people, like Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe of Pet Shop Boys, who the f*** are you to warn of consequences?
I don't approve and don't warn, you would notice if you were more attentive. I meant that Iranian sluts and homosexuals are warned of the consequences by living in their own country, where the majority of people support such severe punishments. And it is not for you and not for me to change it.
Undertaker wrote:Deschanel, you may as well speak to the brick wall. You will get more sense out of if than a Russian.
I'd be surprised if they were on the electric yet. Dark ages? It's more medieval.
Ah, you are more lucky people than we are in Russia, your dark ages are over, and you should be very proud, guys. Seriously! We, unlucky and retarded bad guys are sitting at our swamp and swallow tears in envy to your success. And now that antibush moods become so strong in EU we are losing our last hope -- no brave white crusaders would come to civilize us.

But then again, as evil guys, we totally desrerved it.
Israel should beat us in football tonight!
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 8:13 pm
by Danny C
black wrote:Israel should beat us in football tonight!
The solitary correct sentence in that otherwise retarded post.
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 10:05 pm
by pet shop boy
Undertaker wrote:
Furthermore, these cowards who blew themselves up caused no end of panic and disruption.
Have you also not thought that maybe the intelligence in this country is pretty good and most scum are stopped before they get chance to kill.
What concreate evidence do you have that 4 people intentionally blew things up on 7/7?
What concreate evidence do you have that our inteligence tell the truth?
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 10:10 pm
by pet shop boy
glennjridge wrote:
terrorists arent mythological beings along the lines of goblins and elves. they have a very lengthy history and they are trying. I dont know why they dont attack that target as opposed to this one.
I do know that they have such primitive views thats its a pointless debate, I only care that these countrys with this Islamic mindset should be kept in a constant state of military ruins.thankfully the US and britain essencially do that even if they are then branded terrorist countrys by a minority.
You're talking about people as if you KNOW them, yet you ONLY know what your government tell you, and they are not trustworthy.
You're wrong, the british government force police officers to show more respect for muslims than british values, like forcing the police to wear islamic ribbons in the holy month, or not arrest muslims when they shout "death to England".
Its absolute madness to trust the british government.
Today Gordon Brown said britain was leading the way in the fight against global warming, and that everyone else must follow

the man is a deluded mooron of the highest order.
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 11:03 pm
by glennjridge
the government doesnt tell me there are terrorists, the history books do. you arent the authority who can say, that was a terrorist, and that one wasnt.so if you cant ...then I see no reason why you can talk to me about it.
muslims are into conspiracy theorys. its something deep in their culture.I cant explain it other than its possibly some kind of a psychological self defense mechanism they use to help them cope with the constant failings of their systems, so they invent a kind of boogeyman instead of looking inward and seeing the harsh truth is their own culture and systems is their own downfall.
it could be difficult for a people who have too much pride. so,they invent an alternate reality,ie conspiracys.
Posted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 11:59 pm
by JSDOUVRES
black wrote:Deschanel wrote:So, those sluts don't enjoy being slaughtered with rocks, but clearly you approve. Is this Russia we're still talking about? Stoning adultereses? Whoa! You lot are worse than I thought.
As for gay people, like Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe of Pet Shop Boys, who the f*** are you to warn of consequences?
I don't approve and don't warn, you would notice if you were more attentive. I meant that Iranian sluts and homosexuals are warned of the consequences by living in their own country, where the majority of people support such severe punishments. And it is not for you and not for me to change it.
Undertaker wrote:Deschanel, you may as well speak to the brick wall. You will get more sense out of if than a Russian.
I'd be surprised if they were on the electric yet. Dark ages? It's more medieval.
Ah, you are more lucky people than we are in Russia, your dark ages are over, and you should be very proud, guys. Seriously! We, unlucky and retarded bad guys are sitting at our swamp and swallow tears in envy to your success. And now that antibush moods become so strong in EU we are losing our last hope -- no brave white crusaders would come to civilize us.

But then again, as evil guys, we totally desrerved it.
Israel should beat us in football tonight!
I find some of these comments by black incredible, Tell me, are the people in Iran not like you and me or are the gays and sluts (ie women in Iran that show their face!!!!!) that exist there not on the same level?
We are all human beings on this planet and Basic, YES BASIC human rights need to be fought for by all of us for all of us everywhere regardless of race or religion. As for saying that the majority of people agree with the disgraceful punishments, tell me, do you think they have a choice? How could you even think of proving such a comment?
The disgusting problems there absolutely are something for you and me and everybody in the world to change. Your thoughts are scary and it seems you are in the dark ages and I'm not joking.
Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2007, 1:57 am
by pet shop boy
glennjridge wrote:
the government doesnt tell me there are terrorists, the history books do.
I thought we were talking about the current "bogeymen"?
History books tell us there was a superhuman (god), doesn't mean its true.
you arent the authority who can say, that was a terrorist, and that one wasnt.so if you cant ...then I see no reason why you can talk to me about it.
Im not saying anyone who hasn't been proved is a terrorist, im simply making the logical point that JUST because the uk and US governments tell us some people are terrorists, does not mean they are.
Yet millions of people believe them without question. Are you one of them?
Remember these very people told us there were WMD's, a complete lie, they lied and they KNEW they were lieing, liars, not trustworthy.
muslims are into conspiracy theorys. its something deep in their culture.
I dont know if thats true, but who told you anyhow?
Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2007, 2:42 am
by glennjridge
nobody has an issue with the US or british government saying the 9/11 or 7/11 are terrorists because they fit the definition of what terrorists do.only a small weird minority somehow assume it was an inside job.
as far as the WMD I dont know where you are going with that angle since saddam did in fact have them and did use them on some of his own people.
thats documented evidence.think of it like a police record. he was 'known" to have them. regardless if he was found to have them in the run up to Iraq invasion, he at least had them.....and used them.
I dont know where they went, or if he destroyed them or transfered them, but thats the problem....just like with the police, if you play games at some point the police get exasperated and knock down your door to look for themselves.all he had to do was be open from the start.he'd still be in that palace if not for his bluster.
muslims are into conspiracys. you can learn simply by watching documentarys on the Iraq war, not even getting into the Israeli palestinian issue.when they interview people on the street they have all these fantasys about jews dictating US policy.
this should be a shock to you.
Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2007, 4:00 am
by Undertaker
pet shop boy wrote:
What concreate evidence do you have that 4 people intentionally blew things up on 7/7?
What concreate evidence do you have that our inteligence tell the truth?
You're a muslim, arent you.
What a warped opinion. Would you like to tell us what wild conspiracy theory you have for 7/7. Obviously the massacre of 52 innocent people and the thousands of lives that were effected by the attacks were something totally different. Please enlighten us on your theory.