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Surprised there wasn't a Nonetheless track on the setlist

(assuming this setlist is correct)

jasonjohn wrote: Tue 12 Aug 2025, 1:42 pm Surprised there wasn't a Nonetheless track on the setlist

(assuming this setlist is correct)

The setlist also included "Vocal", right after "It's alright", but indeed, no track from "Nonetheless".

jasonjohn wrote: Tue 12 Aug 2025, 1:42 pm Surprised there wasn't a Nonetheless track on the setlist

(assuming this setlist is correct)

They had to trim about 20 minutes off the main set. Looks like they lost Single/Se a vida e, Dancing Star, New York City boy, A new bohemia, Jealousy and Vocal (there's a surprise). Probably felt they had to do it to keep the energy up.

petshopgrrl wrote: Wed 13 Aug 2025, 5:23 am
They had to trim about 20 minutes off the main set. Looks like they lost Single/Se a vida e, Dancing Star, New York City boy, A new bohemia, Jealousy and Vocal (there's a surprise). Probably felt they had to do it to keep the energy up.

Hmm, I think I saw a clip from Vocal on instagram? Not 100% sure though.

And as others have mentioned, they got really good reviews in the Swedish papers!

I suppose PSB are not happy enough about "Nonetheless". The first time they were listening to it, they thought it was awful. At least, it's a bit better than Hotspot.

Nickname wrote: Wed 13 Aug 2025, 12:10 pm I suppose PSB are not happy enough about "Nonetheless". The first time they were listening to it, they thought it was awful. At least, it's a bit better than Hotspot.

Wow! Hotspot! I'd forgot about that mess. That's the one with the worst closing track in the history of pop, isn't it?

I love nonetheless, nonetheless.

It's a greatest hits tour and the festival crowd is a more generalised one, to make the time, they're shaving off the tracks that won't be as well known as the others, aren't the biggest singalongs etc. There was nothing from Nonetheless in Belgium a couple of weeks ago either.
I've been to festivals where '80s acts' have thrown their 'new single' in and the crowd have all just looked on with blank faces (and for what it's worth I loved Masquerade by the 'Nanas and Nerves of Steel by Erasure and was singing my little heart out!!)

Vintage Youth wrote: Wed 13 Aug 2025, 12:34 pm It's a greatest hits tour and the festival crowd is a more generalised one, to make the time, they're shaving off the tracks that won't be as well known as the others, aren't the biggest singalongs etc.

I think "The Sodom and Gomorrah" show or "Integral" work perfectly for tours, even when they are not hits just because are anthemic songs people love from PSB. The same thing for "Shameless".

Nickname wrote: Wed 13 Aug 2025, 12:56 pm

Vintage Youth wrote: Wed 13 Aug 2025, 12:34 pm It's a greatest hits tour and the festival crowd is a more generalised one, to make the time, they're shaving off the tracks that won't be as well known as the others, aren't the biggest singalongs etc.

I think "The Sodom and Gomorrah" show or "Integral" work perfectly for tours, even when they are not hits just because are anthemic songs people love from PSB. The same thing for "Shameless".

Ok, so you or I might know those, but the vast majority of a festival audience probably won't. And it is literally billed as a Greatest Hits tour (admittedly with some artistic licence going on).

I'm wondering whether Warwick really will be the last ever Dreamland date!

OakeyDokey wrote: Thu 19 Jun 2025, 6:53 pm Oh...is that where Soft Cell got it from? Memorabilia

Love this - always assumed it was Marc's own joke!

Nickname wrote: Wed 13 Aug 2025, 12:10 pm I suppose PSB are not happy enough about "Nonetheless". The first time they were listening to it, they thought it was awful. At least, it's a bit better than Hotspot.

Actually, Neil has told fans on tour that they're incredibly proud of Nonetheless. What you're saying is misleading because they fixed what they didn't like and then said they thought the album was perfect. They can never win: if they do deep cuts, people complain, and if they do the hits, people still complain because they weren’t the hits they wanted to hear

It wasn't a proper greatest hits set until now, so they probably have to re-record the show with this format. It's what the atypical Psb fan always wanted - the people stuck in the 80's who adore them and the memory of their ultra coolness and themselves as young, but who haven't touched anything with a stick they released since 1993. Some are even here maybe hoping for a second coming. For me Single-bilingual was the highlight of the show.

I have to admit it's a little surprising that they've ditched more recent singles from Nonetheless. I guess maybe the singles from it don't get the crowds going like the "classics" do, but I think a slower number "...Bohemia" would be a good pick to pair up with something more well known and mash-it-up...Being Boring seems like an obvious choice here:

Why not bookend Bohemia with the first and last parts of BB as it's "sort of" intended.

I think Bohemia stands up on its own nicely - it's the best scarf waver they've written in ages. Although I thought it was rather funny at Cardiff that the big screens suddenly switched from N&C to the audience as though someone was hoping for a lighter/flashlight waving moment... and quickly changed back when they realized the audience hadn't clued in. Bohemia in a full set is followed by Jealousy, then Love Comes Quickly - three slowies in a row - so if they have to save some time and energy, Love comes quickly is, IMO, the best one to keep of the three. (I love that walk across the glowing backdrop.)

I was a little surprised that Loneliness got axed in favor of Dancing Star. I thought Loneliness worked great live last year, while there was something about Dancing Star that didn't quite work for me after Domino Dancing. Can't quite explain it.