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ChrisLove wrote: Tue 25 Jun 2024, 11:27 pm Jewel case all the way i hate cardboard cases.

Completely agree

jasonjohn wrote: Wed 26 Jun 2024, 3:52 am Russia getting a special-special edition?

The ironing is delicious

Daft question so please be kind, but what differentiates it as an "unofficial" release. Is it just because someone in their basement knocked it off with all those bonus tracks and make it "look" official (ie bootleg), or did Parlophone ACTUALLY manufacture this and intend this for distribution, but it's just not acknowledged as official (and if so why?).

My thoughts drift to the "Muy" picture disc - which despite it's supposed unofficial status still managed to make it into Catalogue, which in my book (pun intended) means the Boys have acknowledged it as being official.

Questions, comments, concerns?

Gabby wrote: Daft question so please be kind, but what differentiates it as an "unofficial" release. Is it just because someone in their basement knocked it off with all those bonus tracks and make it "look" official (ie bootleg), or did Parlophone ACTUALLY manufacture this and intend this for distribution, but it's just not acknowledged as official (and if so why?).

Yeah, illegal pressed silver CDs. In the 00s they were riddled with typos too, I don’t know if that's still the case.


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leesmapman wrote: Wed 26 Jun 2024, 3:51 pm

Gabby wrote: Daft question so please be kind, but what differentiates it as an "unofficial" release. Is it just because someone in their basement knocked it off with all those bonus tracks and make it "look" official (ie bootleg), or did Parlophone ACTUALLY manufacture this and intend this for distribution, but it's just not acknowledged as official (and if so why?).

Yeah, illegal pressed silver CDs. In the 00s they were riddled with typos too, I don’t know if that's still the case.


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Where's the "Like" button when you need one? Thanks Leesmapman!

I don't use Spotify but I'm curious about how Nonetheless is doing there compared to their last couple of albums. Does anyone know what song has the most listens from the album?

Gabby wrote: Wed 26 Jun 2024, 3:39 am

ChrisLove wrote: Tue 25 Jun 2024, 11:27 pm Jewel case all the way i hate cardboard cases. I saw interesting edition of Nonetheless in jewel case two cd's, the second with 7 songs like Sense of time, If Jesus had a sister, Dancing star solomun ext. remix and 4 songs from Furthermore.

This?

https://www.discogs.com/release/3077102 ... onetheless

yes, if only this would have I've got plans (involving you) i would buy this but i ordered before three Nonetheless singles

Russia got special deluxe edition

OK...here goes...top to bottom:

Grey - Made in Germany/Parlophone - Rough Trade UK
Grey - Made in USA/Warner - Rough Trade USA
Clear - Made in Germany/Parlophone - Amazon UK (also can confirm Amazon Canada but marketed as Milky Clear there)
Milky Clear - Made in USA/Warner - Amazon USA
Zoetrope just for fun...Blood Records

Hope this helps some people.

oh wow, they look nice all lined up like that

jasonjohn wrote: Thu 27 Jun 2024, 2:59 am oh wow, they look nice all lined up like that

Y'know, I was kind of bummed that the colours of choice were white, grey and clear (or Milky Clear ) but it all makes perfect sense when you see the packaging, photography and design. All of those colours just look "right" don't they?

Anything more "colourful" like a red or neon colours would have just been wrong.

Finally jewel case version! I hate the cardsleeve! For the singles it's perfect, but for album it's very cheap.

I bought the jewelcase edition but a bit disappointed because of the darker cover. I bit poor quality reprint.

I was listening back to the 'About' documentary, and I noticed that around the 7-minute mark in Part 1, I'm sure I can hear what appears to be the opening bars to 'Feel'. Annoyingly, the audio is pushed back in the mix during the voice-over "listening back to unfinished songs, August 1996".

We all know that Neil said they demoed this song for PopArt back in 2003, but it now appears that the track may go further back in history.

Den wrote: Mon 05 Aug 2024, 11:39 pm I was listening back to the 'About' documentary, and I noticed that around the 7-minute mark in Part 1, I'm sure I can hear what appears to be the opening bars to 'Feel'. Annoyingly, the audio is pushed back in the mix during the voice-over "listening back to unfinished songs, August 1996".

We all know that Neil said they demoed this song for PopArt back in 2003, but it now appears that the track may go further back in history.

It makes sense.

The verses of "Feel" have a moving rythm and a tone that reminds us the young Neil Tennant, it doesn't sound as old as the rest of the album.

That's why it is probably the best song of the album.

Den wrote: Mon 05 Aug 2024, 11:39 pm I was listening back to the 'About' documentary, and I noticed that around the 7-minute mark in Part 1, I'm sure I can hear what appears to be the opening bars to 'Feel'. Annoyingly, the audio is pushed back in the mix during the voice-over "listening back to unfinished songs, August 1996".

We all know that Neil said they demoed this song for PopArt back in 2003, but it now appears that the track may go further back in history.

I listened to the section you're mentioning and sorry but no, it doesn't sound like Feel at all. Maybe it's a common chord progression or something about the preset that's making you think that, but I'm pretty confident (asked around too and we agreed) that it's not Feel. Also, Neil is extremely proficient with his songwriting log and rarely (if ever) gets stuff like that wrong. I can think of one time he sorta got it wrong (with Winner), but it was mostly a random mistake because the file was labeled differently in their drive. Plus, remember he only had the chorus for Feel back in 2003 and nothing else, no verses or music.

Nickname wrote: Tue 06 Aug 2024, 3:13 pm

Den wrote: Mon 05 Aug 2024, 11:39 pm I was listening back to the 'About' documentary, and I noticed that around the 7-minute mark in Part 1, I'm sure I can hear what appears to be the opening bars to 'Feel'. Annoyingly, the audio is pushed back in the mix during the voice-over "listening back to unfinished songs, August 1996".

We all know that Neil said they demoed this song for PopArt back in 2003, but it now appears that the track may go further back in history.

It makes sense.

The verses of "Feel" have a moving rythm and a tone that reminds us the young Neil Tennant, it doesn't sound as old as the rest of the album.

That's why it is probably the best song of the album.

Because I enjoy bursting your bubble, it doesn't make sense because the song isn't Feel. I was kind of proud you liked the song because it's openly queer and most definitely sounds like a post-00s PSB song, but then you had to ruin your redeeming quality by saying it sounds like "young Neil Tennant" and that the album "sounds old." But hey, what do you know about queerness and anything post-Imperial phase, I guess.