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Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Mon 11 Nov 2024, 10:58 pm
by Spittingcat
Love the Orchestral version.

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Mon 11 Nov 2024, 11:00 pm
by tottenhammattspurs
Having had time to think about this, I think it’s been a really good idea. You’ve shrunk down the new single and a timeless classic to just under two minutes each. The perfect length for this generation of youth with no patience. It’s still West end Girls but it’s two mins long. It’s still Dudes but distilled into two mins. Perfect.

Also, the talk of “40 and 52 yr old songs” just doesn’t carry any weight with the younger generation. They literally have no concept of what is “old” and what is “new”. Thanks (?) to Spotify it’s all just “music”. They either like it or they don’t. Kids had no idea that Murder on the dancefloor was a 22 yr old song. They have no idea that You Can Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac is pushing 50 They either like songs or they don’t. They are probably half aware of West end girls but they wouldn’t have a clue that it’s 40 yrs old. It’s just “a song”.

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Mon 11 Nov 2024, 11:14 pm
by retrofuturist
Greetings,
Spittingcat wrote: Mon 11 Nov 2024, 10:58 pm Love the Orchestral version.
Best version yet... it no longer feels like Neil is fighting against the rhythm.

Retro. :)

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Mon 11 Nov 2024, 11:50 pm
by Vintage Youth
tottenhammattspurs wrote: Mon 11 Nov 2024, 11:00 pm Having had time to think about this, I think it’s been a really good idea. You’ve shrunk down the new single and a timeless classic to just under two minutes each. The perfect length for this generation of youth with no patience. It’s still West end Girls but it’s two mins long. It’s still Dudes but distilled into two mins. Perfect.

Also, the talk of “40 and 52 yr old songs” just doesn’t carry any weight with the younger generation. They literally have no concept of what is “old” and what is “new”. Thanks (?) to Spotify it’s all just “music”. They either like it or they don’t. Kids had no idea that Murder on the dancefloor was a 22 yr old song. They have no idea that You Can Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac is pushing 50 They either like songs or they don’t. They are probably half aware of West end girls but they wouldn’t have a clue that it’s 40 yrs old. It’s just “a song”.
**Robert Redford in Jeremiah Johnson nodding GIF**

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 1:04 am
by petshopgrrl
tottenhammattspurs wrote: Mon 11 Nov 2024, 11:00 pm Having had time to think about this, I think it’s been a really good idea. You’ve shrunk down the new single and a timeless classic to just under two minutes each. The perfect length for this generation of youth with no patience. It’s still West end Girls but it’s two mins long. It’s still Dudes but distilled into two mins. Perfect.

Also, the talk of “40 and 52 yr old songs” just doesn’t carry any weight with the younger generation. They literally have no concept of what is “old” and what is “new”. Thanks (?) to Spotify it’s all just “music”. They either like it or they don’t. Kids had no idea that Murder on the dancefloor was a 22 yr old song. They have no idea that You Can Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac is pushing 50 They either like songs or they don’t. They are probably half aware of West end girls but they wouldn’t have a clue that it’s 40 yrs old. It’s just “a song”.
Finally took the time to watch the whole performance on a large screen and thought it worked really well. Fantastic set, brilliant arrangements, love the shiny coats. The yoof looked like they were enjoying themselves, if a little confused in places ("Wot's 'e doing? Does 'e even do anyfing??" :lol: ), but I get the feeling that vibe's been with them for most of their career anyway so nothing new!

Did I miss all the comments about the Kings of Ironic Pop doing a song about young dudes when their collective age is 135, or have we had that discussion before?

Also, interesting juxtaposition of ATYD and West End girls in that both of them start out talking about suicide. Cheers! :think:

Is there any actual footage of the award presentation anywhere or is it not worth watching?

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 2:11 am
by df118junkie
rashomon wrote: Mon 11 Nov 2024, 9:20 pm The pic of the boys with Shaun Ryder and Bez of the Happy Mondays has just made my absolute week

Now that’s a collab I would love to hear!

Wrote For Luck - The PSB maracas shaken not stirred extended mix

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Listen to this. It may satisfy that thought. https://boogierookie.bandcamp.com/album ... disco-ball

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 2:27 am
by Gabby
There was some discussion earlier about whether this was performed live. Given the expediency of the released material today, I'm suspecting it wasn't...sort of. I think the orchestra was live. I think Neil was "mostly" live but with the recorded track to boost the vocal, and I reckon Chris probably wasn't playing anything live at all.

That's not a dig - I think given the time and effort needed just to put in 5 minutes of spectacle, I'd be looking for every opportunity to cut corners and cost. They went to the trouble to studio record it, the visuals were amazing. Job well done!

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:42 am
by TG

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:50 am
by Old Soak
"Processed" and "Narcissistic" - so true

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/pet-shop-b ... y-34085085

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:54 am
by psbfannyc
Old Soak wrote: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:50 am "Processed" and "Narcissistic" - so true

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/pet-shop-b ... y-34085085
"And the duo reveal they are already recording a new album as well as a theatre show - a genre which Neil also doesn’t hide his dislike for. He says: “The next album is different from the last three we made. It will be more orchestral and euphoric. We like the magic of euphoria as it drives us."

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:59 am
by TallThinMan
Old Soak wrote: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:50 am "Processed" and "Narcissistic" - so true

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/pet-shop-b ... y-34085085
Yay! The rudest men in rock are BACK!

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 10:31 am
by Vintage Youth
The 'new album' thing has been discussed on pages 8 and 9 ;)

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 11:11 am
by psbfannyc
psbfannyc wrote: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:54 am
Old Soak wrote: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:50 am "Processed" and "Narcissistic" - so true

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/pet-shop-b ... y-34085085
"And the duo reveal they are already recording a new album as well as a theatre show - a genre which Neil also doesn’t hide his dislike for. He says: “The next album is different from the last three we made. It will be more orchestral and euphoric. We like the magic of euphoria as it drives us."
https://www.petshopboys.co.uk/pet-texts ... 2/press-55

"12 November 2024
Press
Neil and Chris did not speak to the Daily Mirror or any other press at the EMAs on Sunday. Subsequent press reports are misleading."

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 11:23 am
by Vintage Youth
psbfannyc wrote: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 11:11 am
psbfannyc wrote: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:54 am
Old Soak wrote: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 8:50 am "Processed" and "Narcissistic" - so true

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/pet-shop-b ... y-34085085
"And the duo reveal they are already recording a new album as well as a theatre show - a genre which Neil also doesn’t hide his dislike for. He says: “The next album is different from the last three we made. It will be more orchestral and euphoric. We like the magic of euphoria as it drives us."
https://www.petshopboys.co.uk/pet-texts ... 2/press-55

"12 November 2024
Press
Neil and Chris did not speak to the Daily Mirror or any other press at the EMAs on Sunday. Subsequent press reports are misleading."
Good for them. It did smack of a composite piece.

Re: PSB @ MTV EMA

Posted: Tue 12 Nov 2024, 11:32 am
by PSB-90
Or AI, that “magic of euphoria” bit.