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! wrote:

bookshopboy wrote:You honestly think those are good suggestions for the next two singles? Surely, we've already got "Fugitive" and "In private" released on Fundamentalism, so it would make more sense to have two new b-sides for each single.....

No, we've got an extended version of Fugitive and a remix of In Private

So you want demo versions as b-sides?

bookshopboy wrote:

! wrote:

bookshopboy wrote:You honestly think those are good suggestions for the next two singles? Surely, we've already got "Fugitive" and "In private" released on Fundamentalism, so it would make more sense to have two new b-sides for each single.....

No, we've got an extended version of Fugitive and a remix of In Private

So you want demo versions as b-sides?

Why would they be demos? Surely the original versions have been recorded properly.

I don't want them as b-sides though.

CBA wrote:

bookshopboy wrote:

! wrote: No, we've got an extended version of Fugitive and a remix of In Private

So you want demo versions as b-sides?

Why would they be demos? Surely the original versions have been recorded properly.

I don't want them as b-sides though.

PSB gave Richard X the demo of "Fugitive" and this became the version on Fundamentalism.

! wrote:

bookshopboy wrote:You honestly think those are good suggestions for the next two singles? Surely, we've already got "Fugitive" and "In private" released on Fundamentalism, so it would make more sense to have two new b-sides for each single.....

No, we've got an extended version of Fugitive and a remix of In Private

Are they too long for you, for Christ's sake? Would you also like shorter versions of long album tracks like Sodom & Gomorrah Show and Luna Park on future singles? Who cares about new b-sides when we could always have a truncated version of a previously released song?

I would like a 20-minute version of Fundamental for me to listen to, when I'm in a hurry.

bookshopboy wrote:So you want demo versions as b-sides?

No, just the original versions.

Eldritch wrote:Are they too long for you, for Christ's sake?

Well, I find Fugitive boring as hell so maybe a shorter version will do the trick. As I said, I prefer to hear the original versions.

! wrote:

bookshopboy wrote:So you want demo versions as b-sides?

No, just the original versions.

So you want to hear the demo of "Fugitive"... (see my post above)

bookshopboy wrote:

! wrote:

bookshopboy wrote:So you want demo versions as b-sides?

No, just the original versions.

Eldritch wrote:Are they too long for you, for Christ's sake?

Well, I find Fugitive boring as hell so maybe a shorter version will do the trick. As I said, I prefer to hear the original versions.

So you want to hear the demo of "Fugitive"... (see my post above)

That's like saying the album version of I'm With Stupid is a demo and the PSB Maxi-Mix is the original.

Until it's confirmed that the versions that appear on Fundamentalism are the original versions, not mixes as the titles of them suggest, then I'll want to hear the proper versions, not demos, edits or remixes.
If they are the original versions, then fine, I don't want an edit or a demo.

! wrote:That's like saying the album version of I'm With Stupid is a demo and the PSB Maxi-Mix is the original

No, it's not.

I'm saying that PSB had a demo of "Fugitive" and they gave it to Richard X to finish off.

The LESS opportunities there are to hear SIR ELTON's bellowing on that vile travesty the BETTER

The LESS opportunities there are to hear SIR ELTON's bellowing on that vile travesty the BETTER

I had a hard time even listening to Elton the first play, really made me jump, but find I'm getting used to him. Never liked him to start with but he don't normally sound so shouty, mind you I only catch him on the radio now and then and it's never on as loud as PSB.

patrick wrote:

TheGardner wrote:Me thinks 'Fugitive' is planned as the b-side of 'Minimal'

Unless the original version is radically different than the one on Fundamentalism this would be a tragic waste of space that could go to entirely new tracks.

absolutily.new tracks as B-sides for me also is always the correct choice.
if they are done doing new songs for B-sides, we have sadly heard everything already and its all done. would be a shame what with the great quality of stuff we have gotten so far in the way fo new tracks.

! wrote:

bookshopboy wrote:

! wrote: No, just the original versions.
Well, I find Fugitive boring as hell so maybe a shorter version will do the trick. As I said, I prefer to hear the original versions.

So you want to hear the demo of "Fugitive"... (see my post above)

That's like saying the album version of I'm With Stupid is a demo and the PSB Maxi-Mix is the original.

Until it's confirmed that the versions that appear on Fundamentalism are the original versions, not mixes as the titles of them suggest, then I'll want to hear the proper versions, not demos, edits or remixes.
If they are the original versions, then fine, I don't want an edit or a demo.

I kinda agree. I like to hear the official versions first then the remix. although going by the resurrcetionist the extended mix does have a nice build up that i really like yet the PSB version pretty much jumps right into the song. something tells me the original PSB version of fugitive does the same thing.

even in these cases where it appears the remixer made a track better, I would rather get the orginal first as in most cases generally a remixer tends to dumb a song down and subtract whats great about it in focusing on stuff like more complicated drums or track speed.

I don't want to be buying tracks over and over again that we already have. I'll take the new songs option please.

Dave

bookshopboy wrote:

! wrote:That's like saying the album version of I'm With Stupid is a demo and the PSB Maxi-Mix is the original

No, it's not.

I'm saying that PSB had a demo of "Fugitive" and they gave it to Richard X to finish off.

They also gave a demo of I'm With Stupid to Trevor Horn to "finish off".

I'm satisfied with anything as a single but "Integral".