Fundamental Further Listening 2003-2006 already 20 tracks

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BlueSwan · #16 Post by **BlueSwan** » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 9:39 am

Burj wrote:Release Further Listening 2001-2003 can include:

LoveLife (Demo for Alcazar) (Previously Unreleased)
Break 4 Love - USA Club Mix (Previously Unreleased on CD)
All Or Nothing (Demo For Miu) (Previously Unreleased)
Transparent
Between Two Islands
Searching For The Face Of Jesus
I Didn't Get Where I Am Today
Always
London - Genuine Piano Mix
Sexy Northerner
Home And Dry - Ambient Mix
Time On My Hands
Here - Extended Mix (Previously Unreleased)
Try It (I'm In Love With A Married Man)
If Looks Could Kill
Paris City Boy - full French version (Previously Unreleased)

that's 16 tracks already, and not one of them connected with C2H either

No point in having the Disco 3 tracks on there, but they could have A Powerful Friend as well as the John Peel versions of If Looks Could Kill (different from the Disco 3 version) and Try It (marginally different from the disco 3 version) on there.

Burj · #17 Post by **Burj** » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 9:45 am

Why wouldn't they include Disco 3 tracks? There's no way D3 would get a FL of it's own.

FLs are supposed to be a round-up of ALL tracks released around the time the main album was recorded, released and promoted.

BlueSwan · #18 Post by **BlueSwan** » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 9:51 am

Burj wrote:Why wouldn't they include Disco 3 tracks? There's no way D3 would get a FL of it's own.

FLs are supposed to be a round-up of ALL tracks released around the time the main album was recorded, released and promoted.

Nope. The Relentless tracks weren't on the Very FL either.

adiba · #19 Post by **adiba** » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 9:55 am

Burj wrote:Why wouldn't they include Disco 3 tracks? There's no way D3 would get a FL of it's own.

FLs are supposed to be a round-up of ALL tracks released around the time the main album was recorded, released and promoted.

Because D3 is a record on it's own. Just like they didn't include any of the "Relentless" tracks on "Very Further Listening".

And no, I haven't heard the JAJP demo! I will look for it right now!

Burj · #20 Post by **Burj** » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 10:01 am

adiba wrote:Because D3 is a record on it's own. Just like they didn't include any of the "Relentless" tracks on "Very Further Listening".

And no, I haven't heard the JAJP demo! I will look for it right now!

They only left off Relentless from Very FL due to running out of room. Relentless is an album and it's own right and may be remastered and reissued at some point.

D3 is just a collection of tracks intended as B-sides, dance remixes (by outside producers except Here) and three new tracks. It was a non-promoted mid-price curio designed to appeal to more than a London single would have done, that's all.

If there is room to include all the PSB mixes from D3 on Release FL why would they choose not to?

There's more chance of Zimbabwe winning the World Cup than there is D3 getting its own FL disc.

adiba · #21 Post by **adiba** » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 10:12 am

Burj wrote:They only left off Relentless from Very FL due to running out of room. Relentless is an album and it's own right and may be remastered and reissued at some point.

D3 is just a collection of tracks intended as B-sides, dance remixes (by outside producers except Here) and three new tracks. It was a non-promoted mid-price curio designed to appeal to more than a London single would have done, that's all.

If there is room to include all the PSB mixes from D3 on Release FL why would they choose not to?

There's more chance of Zimbabwe winning the World Cup than there is D3 getting its own FL disc.

I'm sure there won't be a D3 FL. What for? But I would feel cheated if any of the "new" tracks there is included in a FL reissue.

Burj · #22 Post by **Burj** » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 10:21 am

adiba wrote:I would feel cheated if any of the "new" tracks there is included in a FL reissue.

Any more cheated than all the people who bought all the singles for the B-sides only to find them on FLs as well?

Frankly, I would feel LESS cheated if PSB chose to include D3 tracks on a Release FL if there was sufficient room, and MORE cheated if they left them off just because some of the people that would buy Release/FL already bought some of them on a mid price CD four years ago.

profile790 · #23 Post by **profile790** » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 12:38 am

Perhaps PSB will decide to compile a Disco 3 / PopArt Further Listening, next to Release Further Listening

There's still a dub of Here, an extended mix of Somebody Else's Business, the Berlin Radio version of London, the demo of Positive Role Model, the unreleased track Powerful Friend and a couple of backing tracks they made for radio performances, such as electro versions of Rent, Opportunities and It's A Sin.

Deschanel · #24 Post by **Deschanel** » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 5:20 am

Wow, I'd love to hear the demo for "Love Life". "Baby" is news to me.

But I thought i had read that Alcazar are broken up.. oh well.

Burj · #25 Post by **Burj** » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 10:08 am

stats-freak wrote:Perhaps PSB will decide to compile a Disco 3 / PopArt Further Listening, next to Release Further Listening

There's still a dub of Here, an extended mix of Somebody Else's Business, the Berlin Radio version of London...

And package the FL with what album? PopArt is a double already. I think they'll only package genuine PSB studio albums with FL discs, in the same way that the first two Discos, Essential, Discography etc didn't get repackaged.

The SEB Ext Mix I think did already include but the mix of London is virtually identical so as Neil replied when asked why did they leave off the infamous 9-minute mix of This must be the place I waited years to leave off Behaviour FL, it's "not different enough."

Avalon · #26 Post by **Avalon** » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 10:13 am

BlueSwan wrote:Nope. The Relentless tracks weren't on the Very FL either.

What nonsense are you spewing this time? Obviously there was "Forever (in love)" on Very's Further Listening compilation

Burj · #27 Post by **Burj** » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 2:10 pm

Deschanel wrote:Wow, I'd love to hear the demo for "Love Life". "Baby" is news to me.

But I thought i had read that Alcazar are broken up.. oh well.

They did, and no one is sure if they'd actually completed their version of Baby by then or not.

profile790 · #28 Post by **profile790** » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 3:35 pm

Burj wrote:
stats-freak wrote:Perhaps PSB will decide to compile a Disco 3 / PopArt Further Listening, next to Release Further Listening

There's still a dub of Here, an extended mix of Somebody Else's Business, the Berlin Radio version of London...
And package the FL with what album? PopArt is a double already. I think they'll only package genuine PSB studio albums with FL discs, in the same way that the first two Discos, Essential, Discography etc didn't get repackaged.

The SEB Ext Mix I think did already include but the mix of London is virtually identical so as Neil replied when asked why did they leave off the infamous 9-minute mix of This must be the place I waited years to leave off Behaviour FL, it's "not different enough."

Whether or not there's enough bonus material for a Disco 3 Further Listening disc, depends on where you draw the line. Which era will be on the Nightlife Further Listening disc, which era on Release FL?

Disco 3 / Further Listening 2003-2005
- Positive Role Model (demo)
- Somebody Else's Business (extended mix)
- Here (PSB new extended dub)
- A Powerful Friend - previously unreleased
- It's A Sin (electro version) - previously unreleased
- Flamboyant (demo version)
- Miracles (extended mix)
- We're The Pet Shop Boys
- Flamboyant (single version)
- No Time For Tears (unreleased single version)

Burj · #29 Post by **Burj** » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 3:48 pm

Why would the demo of Positive role model recorded in 2000 be on a D3 FL?

Neil has already stated that all the tracks connected with C2H will be on a Nightlife FL. And as SEB was recorded at the time as Positive role model I'd guess that would be on there as well.

It looks like:

Nightlife: C2H and tracks recorded 1998-2001
Release: Disco 3 and tracks recorded 2001-2003
Fundamental: PopArt, BP and tracks recorded 2003-2006

profile790 · #30 Post by **profile790** » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 4:23 pm

I was just trying, in a very forced way, to make clear that *even* a D3 Further Listening disc would be technically possible if they want to. However, I don't think it's very likely.