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Pet Shop Boys will be interviewed on GMTV on ITV1 between 9 and 9.30 am on Tuesday, March 17th.
On Friday, March 18th, they'll be interviewed on "The One Show" on BBC1 between 7 and 7.30 pm.

*Ahem*

Sandy Shaw wrote: I just seems crazy

I applaud your eye for detail, but bitter experience has taught me it's important to proof read one's own posts when dishing out the pedantry, because there's usually another pedantic PSB fan lurking somewhere close by!

Sandy Shaw wrote: If Neil and Chris would like to offer me a job in quality control, I am available!

... and I'll happily be yours!!

Ghost within this house wrote:

Sandy Shaw wrote: I just seems crazy

I applaud your eye for detail, but bitter experience has taught me it's important to proof read one's own posts when dishing out the pedantry, because there's usually another pedantic PSB fan lurking somewhere close by!

Sandy Shaw wrote: If Neil and Chris would like to offer me a job in quality control, I am available!

... and I'll happily be yours!!

Thanks! In the spirit of correcting things, I will have to go back and edit that post. I asked for it really . 'Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa'

I just seems crazy - I ees not crazy!

UPDATE: "Love etc." has today moved up from 17 to 20 in the UK midweek singles charts.

That's shocking.

Sandy Shaw wrote:UPDATE: "Love etc." has today moved up from 17 to 20 in the UK midweek singles charts.

You mean down, surely?

Firthy2002 wrote:

Sandy Shaw wrote:UPDATE: "Love etc." has today moved up from 17 to 20 in the UK midweek singles charts.

You mean down, surely?

Just copied this from the OS. It is in the proofreading thread after all!

In the email just sent advertising the special box set, the tour dates show

Manchester Thursday June19th

London Friday June 18th

OS today. The roll of a 'dice' has been changed from the BBC website - the roll of a 'die'.

Sandy Shaw wrote:OS today. The roll of a 'dice' has been changed from the BBC website - the roll of a 'die'.

Is it still wrong with "a dice"?

I've always thought it was grammatically wrong when ABBA in "The winner takes it all" sang "the gods may throw a dice", as I had learnt that dice was the plural of a die. However when I now check dictionaries, they say that dice is also the singular form. For example Collins English Dictionary:

dice n, pl dice 1 a small cube, etc

and

die n 3 same as dice (sense 1)

Hmm, so "a dice" isn't wrong anymore, if it ever has been?

Hillbilly wrote: dice n, pl dice 1 a small cube, etc

n, pl = noun, plural


I love this thread!

Sandy, you are to typographical standards what Alfonso is to PSB texts!

Ghost within this house wrote:

Hillbilly wrote: dice n, pl dice 1 a small cube, etc

n, pl = noun, plural

Yes I know, and it means that

[a] dice is a noun,
and that the plural form is dice (=the same as the singular form)

Compare, from the same page:
dialysis n, pl -ses

It's you who can't interpret a dictionary correctly!

Also, from http://lexin.nada.kth.se/cgi-bin/sve-eng:

Svenskt uppslagsord
tärning tärningen tärningar subst.
liten kub (med prickar från ett till sex för vissa spel) (även om andra föremål med samma form)

Engelsk översättning
dice

Swedish: [en] tärning (singular) =
English: [one] dice

Is that wrong too?

"dice" has pretty much taken over from "die" for the singular, although both can be used (at least here in the US), unless you are using the phrase "the die is cast"

boyjohn wrote:"dice" has pretty much taken over from "die" for the singular, although both can be used (at least here in the US), unless you are using the phrase "the die is cast"

Both are used, but one is correct and the other is incorrect.

The phrase 'the die is cast' simply harks back to a time when people spoke correctly.

As time goes by, languages change. This is just one of those things happening, and once a population has started using words in a certain way it is hard to revert back to the "correct" way.

Here is a definition from the Columbia Guide to Standard English
Dice is the plural, die is one singular, and dice is also a Standard singular form. A pair of dice usually takes a singular verb. We keep the singular die primarily in the cliché “The die is cast,” and in tool and die (the plural of which is dies) work.