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Parkol wrote:no one really cares about gays here... we have many problems: homless animals and people, bad quality buildings, ecology, money, crysis, degrodation... Many... Gay parade is not nessesary.

You contradict yourself there, saying "no one cares" but that it also "isn't necessary." If no one cares about the problems that some people face simply for being gay (and please, please don't tell me that there aren't any such problems) then surely it is necessary?

And it is possible to care about and fight for more than one issue. Playing oppression olympics gets you nowhere

Roboplegic wrote:

Parkol wrote:no one really cares about gays here... we have many problems: homless animals and people, bad quality buildings, ecology, money, crysis, degrodation... Many... Gay parade is not nessesary.

You contradict yourself there, saying "no one cares" but that it also "isn't necessary." If no one cares about the problems that some people face simply for being gay (and please, please don't tell me that there aren't any such problems) then surely it is necessary?

And it is possible to care about and fight for more than one issue. Playing oppression olympics gets you nowhere

No one cares about gays means no one wait for them around the corner with a gun or smth...
They have no problems hee, look at the report.
They sent few balls in the sky and laughed... That was their problems.

I tell you that middle salory in SPB is 400$ and that is the problem because few thousands people lost their job and THAT is the problem. Gays have nothing to say here...
What can they say?

We f...k men or... look at us, we live with men, we can love the same sex... or what????!!!
So what???
OK, you love men, ok you have a sex with men... SO what's next???
Where is the problem...
My wife friend couldn't get a job on Saint-Petersburg TV, because 60% of people who worked ther are... yes, gays...
Gay mafia and they invite gays there, friends, friends of friends and etc.. Our tv is not profesional, because of corruption...

Look at the report and you will see what they did on the streets... Just walk and laughed... That's all.
No-thing, absolutely. It's like the party on the street - drinking alcohol, talking and etc...

They are people, just people who wants some attention, but... look, if people don't want to go by them and always ask something like:
"Hey, you are gay, do you have some problems? I can help you...
No?
OK, so... if you will have some problems please tell me, because some people from Pet Shop Boys Community really care about your health and your problems, they think that everyone tryes to hit you or offend..."

Come to Russia and see how we love not through TV or Internet.

I am tired to explain it, guys...
It's better to talk about how to save our planet and animals. Really.

Simple question, Parkol: should gays have the same right to march or demonstrate as anybody else in your country? Simple answer, please. Yes or no.

Drico.

Drico One wrote:Simple question, Parkol: should gays have the same right to march or demonstrate as anybody else in your country? Simple answer, please. Yes or no.

Drico.

All people have the same rights.
As I said before, the question is: what do they want to say or protest?

Some people do not hate gays, but they don't like that small children see how two guys kissing.
So, all people are different and if someone doesn't like gays - it's his business.
Religion looks at it not very good.
I don't remember that Jesus said something like - "Let men sleep with men".

So... Homosexuality is not a problem, it's like fashion for me.
There are in Russia a lot of beautiful girls, so our men can't think about homosexuality, because they have no time for it.

Parkol wrote: There are in Russia a lot of beautiful girls, so our men can't think about homosexuality, because they have no time for it.

Dear me. Just keep digging.


StevePSB

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Parkol, I'm sorry but I can see we're never going to agree.

bohemians. wrote: .....and political colummnist Dmitry Motrich goes on "why go public about bedroom habits?...we can easily end up with marches of oral sex enthusiasts or public meetings of practitioners of spanking"
-those people totally do not understand that it is not about gay sex,but about human rights for gay people - same as hetero do have...
...Well lets see what happens on Palace Square on May 26th...

It truly bizarre how some people just think gay = sex. They never seem to take into account any other aspect of life and love the bastards.

Parkol wrote:As I said before, the question is: what do they want to say or protest?

Maybe they want to protest about the last three Gay Pride marches, which have all endured anti-gay violence from extremists (while the police stood around and did nothing, of course)

Danny C wrote:

Parkol wrote:As I said before, the question is: what do they want to say or protest?

Maybe they want to protest about the last three Gay Pride marches, which have all endured anti-gay violence from extremists (while the police stood around and did nothing, of course)

???
Give me the link please...

StevePSB wrote:

Parkol wrote: There are in Russia a lot of beautiful girls, so our men can't think about homosexuality, because they have no time for it.

Dear me. Just keep digging.


StevePSB

I think it is clear that Parkol is one very confused little boy.

People, look, sometimes I think that you don't read what I wrote.
I said, they have no probvlems and that parade was like party, you tell me that - NO!!! Everyone wants to kill them, everyone wants to hurt them, they have no Rights, they have nothing!!!
Oh my God, Russian gays in Dangerous!!! Save them!!!

It reminds me american movioe where they alays think that Russia is winter all the time, wll people drink vodka, bears walk in the city and every second guy has Kalashnikov.

That reminds me how I sit in Finish cafe few years ago and one drunk finish guy came to me and begin to say words he know in Russian:
Harlamov!!! Kalashnikov!!! Spasibo!!! Eltsin, perestroika!

Do you know what I have thought then?

I have thought that he is more dumper then a cocroach.
really, I necer think about to came to american or... german and say: Hitler!!! handehoh!!! Hitler Kaput! Ain Cvai Dry! or... smth like that.
it's f...ing stupid!

So don't look for the problems and any sense where it doesn't exists.
Our people are quite lazy and some of acts has no sense.
gays in Russia live their live as all people and you can't compare Russia and West.
We are really difference.

When I hear that Gorbachev is one clear person who help us to liberate - is stupid, you know nothing about the truth.
No-thing, guys!

After 1985 we degrodate, dying (5 000 000 are dead), gouverment let us believe in God but instead of it we lost a lot of REAL things. it's a long story, I just want to say. Sometimes you don't want to belive the truth because it's more comfortable to belive in things you get used to.

Gays are people.
Lujkov don't let them parade because he thinks that it's not nessesary, but he don't shoot them or press.

Yeah, nothing to see here. And Russians never drink vodka. Let's not blow this out of proportion, Parkol's just saying gay people wouldn't be beaten, harrassed and arrested if they'd just to the right thing and live in dark, secret shame.

Parkol wrote:There are in Russia a lot of beautiful girls, so our men can't think about homosexuality, because they have no time for it.

You are really the biggest idiot ever to appear on a Pet Shop Boys fan forum. You make me want to throw up.

dVTB wrote:You are really the biggest idiot ever to appear on a Pet Shop Boys fan forum. You make me want to throw up.

There is really is something to be said about the direct approach

You really are a complete tit, Parkol.