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Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:32 pm
by VRIDD
Future Lover wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:02 pmIt is apparently available on this disc. I don't own it, but give it a try!
https://www.discogs.com/release/263315- ... lub-Wave-2
I have it! However, here you can find West End Girls [nouvelle version], that is the FR/BE single version, 4:10 long.

This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jsiC16xWdo

My hunting for West End Girls [original 7" version] (uk single version 4:14 long) is still in progress :|

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:46 pm
by Nickname
I think there is a full version of West End Girls we haven't listened yet with the production Stephen Hague. There is a file on the DVD of "Smash" that gives us a file about it.

That ending of West End Girs says a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEQi6og4T0

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 7:37 pm
by telys
VRIDD wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:32 pm
Future Lover wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:02 pmIt is apparently available on this disc. I don't own it, but give it a try!
https://www.discogs.com/release/263315- ... lub-Wave-2
I have it! However, here you can find West End Girls [nouvelle version], that is the FR/BE single version, 4:10 long.

This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jsiC16xWdo

My hunting for West End Girls [original 7" version] (uk single version 4:14 long) is still in progress :|
Cool, Neil lipsyncing the James Brown samples as well.

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 7:38 pm
by telys
Well, it's on vinyl at least, isn't it?

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 7:45 pm
by TwizzleUK
Nickname wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:46 pm I think there is a full version of West End Girls we haven't listened yet with the production Stephen Hague. There is a file on the DVD of "Smash" that gives us a file about it.

That ending of West End Girs says a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEQi6og4T0
This has been discussed before, and it's most likely a unique instrumental edit created for the Blu-ray menus from the multi-tracks used to create the live versions. However, I've often wondered if there's a "full length" version we've never heard that is the version on 'Please', but including the extra version only heard on the 12" and 10" mixes - so the same in structure as the live version on 'Performance'. I would imagine if this version exists, it would have been on the 'Please' Further Listening bonus disc though, so guess the extra verse remains unique to the 12" and 10" mixes.

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 8:56 am
by VRIDD
telys wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 7:38 pm Well, it's on vinyl at least, isn't it?
Yes, West End Girls [original 7" version] was published on the first UK 7'' press: https://www.psb-catalogue.com/weg84pic.php

Here you can find a vinyl rip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQjmPTCrtAE

It seems that it is also on the Canadian 7'' promo: https://www.discogs.com/release/232226- ... -End-Girls

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 10:23 am
by andmaste
An almost complete list of the West End girls releases and compilations:

https://www.psbcq.it/index.php?option=c ... Itemid=122

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 11:34 am
by VRIDD
andmaste wrote: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 10:23 am An almost complete list of the West End girls releases and compilations:

https://www.psbcq.it/index.php?option=c ... Itemid=122
Very interesting list!
It could take a week to go through it, but I'll do it!!

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 12:27 pm
by Geographer
Don't waste your time on this search. The version of the West End girls you need has never been released on CD or digitally.

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 4:14 pm
by andmaste
VRIDD wrote: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 11:34 am
andmaste wrote: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 10:23 am An almost complete list of the West End girls releases and compilations:

https://www.psbcq.it/index.php?option=c ... Itemid=122
Very interesting list!
It could take a week to go through it, but I'll do it!!
It could be interesting checking these compilations:

"Club Wave 2" compilation
Belgium
2xCD
Year: 1999
4:10 West End Girls
2xCD BEL (Ars; 740464-2)

"80's & 90's Rock UK" compilation
France
2xCD
Year: 2019
4:10 West End Girls
2xCD FRA (Wagram Music; 3367586)

"Le Classement De Tous Les Tubes Annees 80" compilation
France
5xCD
Year: 2018
4:10 West End Girls
5xCD FRA (Wagram Music; 3356332)

"A Taste Of Disco" compilation
United States
CD promo
Year: 1991
4:10 West End Girls
CD US (Hot Productions; HTCD PRO-1) [promo]

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 5:50 pm
by Oznerol
VRIDD wrote: Fri 01 Mar 2024, 11:39 pm Does anybody know if West End Girls [original 7" version] has ever been published on CD?

I mean the 1984 original uk single version, 4:14, that is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQjmPTCrtAE
Let make some clarification in this chaotic world of the ZYX-West End girls version.
This one form the youtube video you posted, known by fans as "original 7" version" only appeared on the original "Power records" Canadian 7" of West End Girls, and it´s NOT the same as the 7" mix included on the original European releases of the single.

To clarify even more, that version from youtube is included only here:
https://www.discogs.com/release/232226- ... -End-Girls

Wich is different from the rest of the 7" versioon from any other country..

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 6:18 pm
by Oznerol
Nickname wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:46 pm I think there is a full version of West End Girls we haven't listened yet with the production Stephen Hague. There is a file on the DVD of "Smash" that gives us a file about it.

That ending of West End Girs says a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEQi6og4T0
That version of Smash is an edit (for sure specially made for Smash) of the backing track they used for the 1986 MTV Awards performance.

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 6:23 pm
by Oznerol
TwizzleUK wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 7:45 pm
Nickname wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:46 pm I think there is a full version of West End Girls we haven't listened yet with the production Stephen Hague. There is a file on the DVD of "Smash" that gives us a file about it.

That ending of West End Girs says a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEQi6og4T0
This has been discussed before, and it's most likely a unique instrumental edit created for the Blu-ray menus from the multi-tracks used to create the live versions. However, I've often wondered if there's a "full length" version we've never heard that is the version on 'Please', but including the extra version only heard on the 12" and 10" mixes - so the same in structure as the live version on 'Performance'. I would imagine if this version exists, it would have been on the 'Please' Further Listening bonus disc though, so guess the extra verse remains unique to the 12" and 10" mixes.
A longer mix of the "album version" do exist, as we can hear here, where they choosed to go on with the live singing for nearly 45 second more than when it fades on the album. Maybe there is even more lenght on the original backing track!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL0LpiHrqoo

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 6:52 pm
by TwizzleUK
Oznerol wrote: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 6:23 pm
TwizzleUK wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 7:45 pm
Nickname wrote: Sun 03 Mar 2024, 5:46 pm I think there is a full version of West End Girls we haven't listened yet with the production Stephen Hague. There is a file on the DVD of "Smash" that gives us a file about it.

That ending of West End Girs says a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEQi6og4T0
This has been discussed before, and it's most likely a unique instrumental edit created for the Blu-ray menus from the multi-tracks used to create the live versions. However, I've often wondered if there's a "full length" version we've never heard that is the version on 'Please', but including the extra version only heard on the 12" and 10" mixes - so the same in structure as the live version on 'Performance'. I would imagine if this version exists, it would have been on the 'Please' Further Listening bonus disc though, so guess the extra verse remains unique to the 12" and 10" mixes.
A longer mix of the "album version" do exist, as we can hear here, where they choosed to go on with the live singing for nearly 45 second more than when it fades on the album. Maybe there is even more lenght on the original backing track!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL0LpiHrqoo
Interesting to hear that - thanks for the link. Really odd Neil included the "Stalin" lines in this version (as late as 1986). Also interesting to here the extra verse from the 10"/12", but at the end of the track, rather than after the instrumental break. This doesn't, however, mean a studio version of the longer album version exists (with or without the extra verse): the backing track they're using here, is a stripped back version of the album mix, missing the backing vocals and with a much longer ending - shame the performance ends before the music stops.

Anyone got a link to the 1986 MTV Awards performance - I couldn't find it on YouTube?

Re: West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD?

Posted: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 7:07 pm
by VRIDD
Geographer wrote: Mon 04 Mar 2024, 12:27 pm Don't waste your time on this search. The version of the West End girls you need has never been released on CD or digitally.
So the 40th anniversary would be perfect to publish West End Girls [original 7" version] on CD or digitally for the very first time!