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Calm down dear....

Britain lives in poverty whilst supporting conflicts that cost millions of pound in aid. Now it's Syria. Add the influx of benefit and NHS tourists and out of control immigration and this country is a joke, a mess. I'm no racist but.....

This will be Britain soon, mark my words, why wouldn't people like this go to Britain with our ridiculously generous benefits????

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... sburg.html

This is a letter I found written by a 72 year old man to Cameron and Milliband, I totally agree with most of if not all of the points, People will call it "racist" of course but then again some people really don't care about Britain now do they????


> DAVID CAMERON & ED MILLIBAND
> It’s sad but true, I have to agree with the 72 year old man who wrote this letter, and I notice there isn’t a reply.
>
> PLEASE PASS IT ON to everyone you can, its time BOTH parties stood up and listened.
> This is our country and it’s being destroyed.
> Subject: The silent majority
> To David Cameron (Prime Minister) & Ed Milliband (Leader of the Opposition)
> You BOTH Worry me! (In fact both of your Political parties worry the hell out of me!!!)
> Over the last three years, I find myself becoming more and more fearful of the pair of you, and between you, you are turning this country into a place that I no longer feel at home in, or feel a part of!
> I watch you in parliament, and no, not just the two of you, but also every politician that I see, stand up in parliament sneering at each other, and acting like children!! (And if you were my children, I would be ashamed of you all, what an example to set!)
> Although you would like us all to believe that you are putting the needs of this country at the forefront, NEITHER of you are doing that, you seem more interested in "one-up-man ship ", in scoring off each other & denigrating each other, to the detriment of this country & its people!!!
> It seems to be all about YOU as individuals, and not about what you can DO for this country!
> It is fast becoming a place that I do not recognize, as the place I always thought, was the best place in the world to be! But no longer!
> You are not listening to the people of this country! I am watching the deterioration of living standards in this country, (and according to you, on a world stage we are doing better than most countries ... REALLY?) ... And yet the gap is widening between the "haves" and the "have-nots”.
> I see our homeless on the streets, our hospitals under-funded, and understaffed, our health system is an absolute mess and a disgrace.
> And yet I see multi-millions of UK pounds being sent offshore, in aid to other countries, before attending to this country's needs!
> I see the selling off of water rights to foreign interests, WHY? Especially when you go to great lengths to tell us that water is a finite resource & supposedly, we must ALL be careful with how we use it, so that we ensure we have it for the future?
> A Carbon Tax, (which you KNOW is just another tax) which will make NO appreciable difference, to carbon emissions, AT ALL! A tax, which in spite of all your arguments FOR it, you are doing alone, when other major countries will NOT & DO NOT embrace it, or believe in it!
> All that it will do for this country is put working families and small businesses in jeopardy, what planet are you on, if you think that the tax we must pay will make even a scrap of difference to the effect of the carbon tax on people? Anyone can see the holes in that argument!
> Do you really think we are that dumb?
> Let's talk about Multiculturalism ...People have come here from other countries, for a better life, for more years than I have been alive (I am 72 years old!) Pre & Post war immigrants came for a better life, and settled in and became wonderful contributors to this country, all have contributed to the rich diversity of this country, and some descendants have even fought FOR this country, and they have become U.K.citizens and were glad to be ...and they had NO handouts from our Government either, they worked hard for everything! I have never before had a problem with all, or any race of immigrants coming here. However, I DO NOW!!! Please tell me why we have areas in towns and on large estates all over the country, where police do NOT, & will NOT go, for fear of their life?
> Please tell me why we can no longer have religion in schools for fear of "OFFENDING" someone?
> (The latest little gem is that they are not having or being funded, for chaplains any more, but Counsellors!) Please tell me why religious Christmas observances are no longer allowed in some schools for fear of OFFENDING someone?
> Please tell me HOW Christmas decorations in some stores might OFFEND someone?
> Please tell me why we have to have segregated days in some swimming centres for fear of "OFFENDING" someone?
> Please tell me why we have some RADICAL clerics demanding Sharia Law in this country when if we were in THEIR country, this would NEVER be allowed?
> Please tell me why our laws need to be changed, so as not to OFFEND someone?
>
> Please tell me why we are fast becoming a MINORITY voice, in our own country, because of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?
> Please tell me WHY Britons cannot legally wear a bike helmet covering their head in a bank and yet it is ok to wear a Burqa which covers the whole of the face?
> And please tell me WHY, when those people who want asylum here can wreck our detention centres and STILL be accepted here?
> What does that say about just who and what are this government's priorities?
> The British people that I speak to have genuine concerns about becoming a second-class minority in our own country, and the reasons for it are some of the above. Are you so blind that you cannot see this? And no, I am NOT racist! If I did not like Catholics or Protestants would I be considered racist? Of course not!
> Why is it then, that if we object to what is happening in our country we are immediately labelled RACIST, is this simply an attempt to shut us up?
> We are fighting Radical Muslims in Afghanistan & Iraq , are we not? I hear you say, yes but the Muslims we have here are "Not like that “. Well how would we know?
> Do we hear ANY of them coming out & speaking AGAINST radicals? I haven't, have you?
> Islam is not compatible with ANY of the values that we hold here in Britain! Are not the experiences of France and the Netherlands an example of that? Why do you think it would be any different here? We even have a British born "radical", whose message is that Britain WILL become a Muslim country, under Sharia Law, and that we had "better get used to it ".
> Will both of you grow some "balls", and start sticking up for this country and its people? We are the people who put you where you are and PAY you to look after our interests! And you are NOT doing that by any stretch of the imagination!
> I would appreciate an answer from both of you, if only to convince me that once again I am not talking to a brick wall! In case it has escaped both of you I would like to remind you that, in the U.K. Government is FOR THE PEOPLE. OF THE PEOPLE. & BY THE PEOPLE ...
> Never forget that because you sure have up till now!

JSDOUVRES wrote:

james23_uk wrote:Unfortunately you edited your racist post and therefore I cannot remind you of exactly what you said that was unacceptable.

Earm, no, all I did was add to it, jesus you are even trying to make things up now! Get a life pal! I am worried about over immigration into this country, that apparently makes me racist you freak!

Your post in this thread on Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:19 pm was edited by you. Unfortunately I cant remember exactly what you posted but it was enough for me to state my concern. You then went back and completely changed it a few hours later.

james23_uk wrote:

JSDOUVRES wrote:

james23_uk wrote:Unfortunately you edited your racist post and therefore I cannot remind you of exactly what you said that was unacceptable.

Earm, no, all I did was add to it, jesus you are even trying to make things up now! Get a life pal! I am worried about over immigration into this country, that apparently makes me racist you freak!

Your post in this thread on Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:19 pm was edited by you. Unfortunately I cant remember exactly what you posted but it was enough for me to state my concern. You then went back and completely changed it a few hours later.

*Yes, I have edited this post, I expect racist accusations from the same old "liberals" on here...

Trying to shut me up? I have strong views about the welfare of my country, sorry if you do not, if I am therefor racist in your pathetic opinion then I don't really care. Did I say the truth perhaps? Did it upset you? And why are you now going on about a post I made month's ago??? Senseless.

I think there's something wrong with you. Good luck with your life - I hope you pull through.

james23_uk wrote:I think there's something wrong with you. Good luck with your life - I hope you pull through.

The feeling is completely mutual, in fact it couldn't be any more mutual.
So there is something wrong with me because I care about my country????
Erm, whatever

I met a friend online years ago on a TV forum, we shared a love of the work of Gerry Anderson, we never stopped talking about it and various British TV shows for years, then I heard he was a supporter of the British National Party. Now I knew about this for a while but I didn't care much because I didn't know what the BNP gets up to.

Then one day he came to me asking me to defend him against what he claimed were slanderous comments about him on a message board somewhere, and I tried but I learned the full story about the British National Party's policies, and basically that was the end of our friendship. Racism man, its awful. I remember watching the DVD of the Julien Temple film Absolute Beginners, set in the late 1950s, where racial tensions were building up as a side plot. A black mother and her baby taunted at by whites at one point, one of the most uncomfortable moments I watched in fiction.

The bourgeoise lefty c*nts in New Labour and at the Guardian have deemed that it's okay to talk about immigration now without it being racist. Thanks guys!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... mmigration

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013 ... mmigration

Patrick Bateman wrote:The bourgeoise lefty c*nts in New Labour and at the Guardian have deemed that it's okay to talk about immigration now without it being racist. Thanks guys!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... mmigration

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013 ... mmigration

Shame a few people on this board don't realise that....

JSDOUVRES wrote: Shame a few people on this board don't realise that....

I think we do, James included. The problem is that, while to some extent it's admirable you're so openly honest about your stance on immigration, there are times when you don't do yourself any favours. There's nothing wrong with voicing strong opinions, but when you do so you have to expect them to be challenged and not be so defensive when it happens. Labelling someone you don't know a "pathetic liberal" just because he disagrees/challenges the tone of your posts doesn't exactly put you in a positive light.

Are you a racist? Well, I don't know you so I can't comment but your posts certainly could be interpreted as such, particularly as it's not just immigration, is it? You've also continually ranted about Islam. The problem some - including myself - have with your posts is the manner in which you continually make tedious generalisations and assumptions based on scaremongering articles that have very little substance; then cook them in a melting pot of hatred, whether it is Asians in Bradford or certain minority groups from Eastern European nations that you claim - almost as fact - will move over here and gobble up benefits when there's no evidence they will come here.

Look, it's impossible to ignore the issue of immigration, especially when my girlfriend and my brother's girlfriend, who are both immigrants, have voiced their own concerns, as well as the section of immigrants in Southampton interviewed in the Guardian article PB posted. I'm not comfortable about the Freedom of Movement's impact on the UK either. Then again, I've lived in a multi-national, multi-ethnic area of northwest London for six years or so and it's not done me much harm. I've had the pleasure of meeting a variety of people from all over the world, many of whom are hard working and very thankful for the opportunity they've been given here, particularly the Somali community. Call me a liberal if you like but I'm someone who prefers to treat each individual on his/her own merit.

I do understand your concern about the potential "flooding" of the country by Eastern Europeans - I'm not immune to it either and should also point out that I think the UK's border control is staggeringly bad - but sometimes a little objectivity wouldn't go amiss. Some of those pesky Bulgarians and Romanians may gobble up our benefits, but many may actually make a positive contribution to the country the way the Poles largely have.

Whilst that is probably the most sensible post in this entire thread, the problem is that for every meritorious Bulgarian or Romanian, there's a consequence. When I was in the sixth form it was easy to get a weekend job to earn a bit of spare cash. These days 1,700 people will apply for a job in a coffee shop.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... s-job.html

There just isn't the money or the infrastructure to cope with this anymore - kids on the scrapheap from before they even leave school because of the treachery of the neoliberal scum political class. Of course now we're actually allowed to mention immigration without being called racist, but only because it's begun to affect the scions of the middle class. Whilst it impacted solely on the proles, nobody gave a f*ck.