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raggatwin wrote:You two are some pair, innit? Lmao. Not only cant you read and draw out arguments you cant extrapolate from data.. St george the turk qould be proud of england's finest....

raggatwin wrote:cant, qould

You really should proof read before you go down that road

yawn.....

Here's a counter-example posted by a friend of mine on Facebook. Which is the true narrative of our welfare system, I wonder?

Before anybody thinks of taking the front page of the Mail to be even remotely accurate about people on 'welfare' (and I know some people will), if you want to see a REAL product of 'welfare Britain', look at me. My parents were unemployed when I was young, my sister rightly needed disability allowance, I got free school meals. I also got a chance to get out of my village, go to university, get a good job and pay taxes back into the system.

Whatever system you invent, unscrupulous people will try to scam it at every level. What you do is try to minimise that scamming. What you don't do is stop helping the genuinely needy just to cut off the supply to the lowest level scammers.

Patrick Bateman wrote: Has Owen Jones commented on the demonisation of Philpott yet?

He's quite happy to demonise Philpott. Philpott is clearly a horrible man. It's the rest of your ridiculous narrative that he quite rightly does not buy. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 57509.html

Patrick Bateman wrote:Oh here we go again, Dr. raggatwin is in session. Incredible how you managed to complete a psychiatry degree as well as studying pretentious bollocks at LSE. You're a true polymath.

well, I read widely, but not the mail.....obviously......

better polymath than polytech.....

raggatwin wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ut-welfare

Good article that, I have to say, the bottom line here is that tax evasion is a massive problem and bigger than people cheating welfare and that greedy landlords are probably the biggest problem we have when it comes to housing benefit payments being so high. The whole "buy to rent" culture is also a disgrace, greed at it's worst, should not be allowed, especially when so many ex council houses are used in this way. But that is a whole new topic to be fair and is a bit more complicated than that of course.
Also I currently get housing benefit for a council bedsit which is £170 a week (£680 a month!!). Pathetic money but not my fault, I was housed here and had no choice at the end of the day. A good example of the problem with high prices though. Oh and I am in Guildford which is quite an expensive place but still shouldn't be that high, not in a million years, I rented a two bedroom flat near the centre of Nantes in France for less than £500 a few years back. But that is France where lots of affordable appartements and homes are built all the time with strict laws from local council's and governments, quite different to this ridiculous "Luxury home" culture we have here in Britain. Once again it's pure greed, plain and simple.

Finally, we agree on something.

raggatwin wrote:better polymath than polytech.....

Tell that to your students.....

Your Funny Uncle wrote:He's quite happy to demonise Philpott. Philpott is clearly a horrible man. It's the rest of your ridiculous narrative that he quite rightly does not buy. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 57509.html

Yawn. Bedwetting liberals like him are to blame for the likes of Philpott being able to live like a chav Medici. Jones would be the first to whine about cutting his benefits - hypocritical tosser.

My students generally get A*C...... on the basis of my classes they'd all go red brick. Suprised u dont like the real univeristies, being an intellectual snob and educated In a school for wanke...I mean posh school....

Also: http://newsthump.com/2013/04/04/daily-m ... ng-people/

I really try my best to stay out of arguments like this, but the welfare / murderer thing going on right now is truly, truly disgusting. YFU's picture above has it right.


StevePSB

Why is it disgusting? Without eugenics, this country is f*cked. This violent criminal was allowed to have seventeen children at the expense of the state. He even had a full-size snooker table ffs!!!!! Still as long as New Labour had his vote.....