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TwizzleUK wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 5:57 pm

ahafan02 wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 2:51 pm

leesmapman wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024, 9:24 pm There was this anecdote where the engineer thought In The Night was the A-side and Opportunities the B-side. It's just that good. Also really interesting to see that they made a history lesson track so early in their career already.

I thought it was "Was That What It Was" not "In the Night" and the person was Shep Pettibone, who was remixing Opportunities.

No, it is as 'In The Night's. Definitely remember them saying the mastering engineer though it was the A-side. Guessing it might have been a comment they made in the 'Alternative' booklet.

Disco. wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 4:19 pm Apparently In The Night was considered for single release in Germany in February 1987 but that idea was shelved.

telys wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 7:05 pm

Disco. wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 4:19 pm Apparently In The Night was considered for single release in Germany in February 1987 but that idea was shelved.

Wasn't it at least a promo or something in Germany at the time?

daveid wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 12:39 am The version of Opportunities they played live for xfm in 2003/4 was a sort-of mash-up with In the Night.

Disco. wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 9:43 pm

telys wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 7:05 pm

Disco. wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 4:19 pm Apparently In The Night was considered for single release in Germany in February 1987 but that idea was shelved.

Wasn't it at least a promo or something in Germany at the time?

Yes, it was I have the 7” promo of it, “only” paid 100 Euros for it.
It has the Arthur Baker 7” Edit.

Tom Angel wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 10:10 pm

daveid wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 12:39 am The version of Opportunities they played live for xfm in 2003/4 was a sort-of mash-up with In the Night.

Such a shame these XFM versions have never been released. Opportunities version is stunning. There's a real opportunity (sorry!) for a compilation of new versions of songs, which I'm aware Furthermore touches on, but how about all the Nightlife tour versions , etc

TwizzleUK wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 11:20 pm

Disco. wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 9:43 pm

telys wrote: Sun 31 Mar 2024, 7:05 pm

Wasn't it at least a promo or something in Germany at the time?

Yes, it was I have the 7” promo of it, “only” paid 100 Euros for it.
It has the Arthur Baker 7” Edit.

Is this the same 7" edit that appeared on the Paninaro 95 CD single?

Drico One wrote: Mon 01 Apr 2024, 11:42 am Track 13: That's my impression

Chronology: Please, Further Listening, Track 9

That's my impression is embryonic ecstasy, throbbing insistently before the climactic explosion reveals torrents of pent-up, propulsive emotion. Neil never sounded angrier, and the rhyming structure is immature by his standards, but it all adds up to a youthful vigour that we rarely hear again. The middle eight is glorious, with our put-out protagonist giving voice to a sense echoed on Please that "going to a club" is more of a notion than a reality. This nicely mirrors the feeling that the idea of escape is better than actually following through. Neil's reserve is to the fore: he doesn't go to the club, he claims, simply because he's not a member. A convenient excuse. The energy at the end of the song is palpable - this relationship is surely dead. There's a venom here, a definitive conclusion being reached. It's over.

Drico.

Drico One wrote: Mon 01 Apr 2024, 12:33 pm I like it when Neil gets angry. For a while around the '90s and early '00s I used to get frustrated at Neil being an utter drip. He was always the victim. As much as we all like a bit of self-indulgence, the "woe is me" routine gets tired. When he's in valedictory mood, his observations often carry a waspish quality. Through you works in the contrast between the rather simple, almost childish triumphalism and the weaponised character assassination that he indulges in to make his point. Loneliness has a sting, too, in that his concern is loaded with accusatory truths.

Drico.