Re: Track-by-Track: From Please to Nonetheless
Posted: Sun 28 Jun 2026, 8:42 am
Not only do i love E-mail, i think the bridge is the most beautiful and haunting piece of music the psb have ever written.
I like to think of it as home...
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This is another problem with Release. When doing this type of album they chose several songs with weak lyrics, an album like this needs strong lyrics. Neil certainly knows how to write lyrics so the inclusion of Email is baffling.davidctecno wrote: Sun 28 Jun 2026, 7:18 am Track 142: E-mail
Chronology: Release - Track 5
It’s not a bad song, but it is a bit weak and lackluster. The first letdown on *Release*.
Those shows have a lot to answer for. I do feel there's been a homogenization in music because of them. A good singing voice doesn't equate to talent.Patrick Bateman wrote: Sun 28 Jun 2026, 6:17 pm Jesus, I thought the charts were bad in 1999 (they've just finished the TOTP repeats on BBC Four) but they're nothing compared with 2002. I assume Home and Dry came out the week after Pop Idol finished.
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Agreed. The ability to hit outrageous notes does not equate to an enjoyable listening experience.
Probably because no radio station would touch it with a barge-pole. Chris Zippel was a mistake and I'm glad they bailed out when they did.VRIDD wrote: Mon 29 Jun 2026, 10:29 am I think that the Chris Zippel Radio Version of E-mail is very interesting!
Does anyone know the history of this version and why it was never released?
This seems to fly over the head of a lot of fans, although they're also breaking the law by jumping their visas.Lleonard Pler wrote: Thu 25 Jun 2026, 9:31 pmOf course it's not about London, it's about reaching a dream land they've been dreaming of and finally getting a sense of freedom and release there, something that was only an idea in the place were they came from. The law they're breaking is not London's law but "the Far North" law, ie they're doing what they couldn't do at home.
In a way it's like the protagonists of Go West finally reached the West.
Well, that's what the Release Further Listening notes suggest.....NOBODY75 wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2026, 10:10 pmAre you saying it was Parlophone that vetoed the inclusion of "I Didn't Get..." on the album?Morse wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2026, 5:02 pmAs fabulous as those songs are, I can see why Neil and Chris (and Parlophone) kept Always, Sexy Northerner, and I Didn't Get Where I Am today off Release. Always and Sexy Northerner aren't guitar sample driven, and I can see why Parlophone queried the inclusion of I Didn't Get Where I Am Today on it as it doesn't quite fit the mood of the album. Sexy Northern and Always are very Pet Shop Boys songs.NOBODY75 wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2026, 1:01 am
I pretty much agree with your opinion. For me, those were the four singles, and in that order. However, I would never have left out Between. Nor The Samurai. It's true that it doesn't fit the album's sound as well, but I don't think Sexy Northerner does either.
I would definitely have removed the last three and included I Didn't Get, Between Two Islands, and Always. For the tenth, I'm torn between Here and Sexy.
But in short, we agree that it could have been a much better album because they had the songs to be.
Neil and Chris openly say that Between Two Islands should have been on the album. I happen to agree with them. Release sounds good as it is. A moment in time for me.
The mood and tone of The Samurai in Autumn (wistful) fits Release...albeit it's the one track which sticks out.Lleonard Pler wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2026, 9:56 pmIf they made Samurai fit, I don't see why any of the other songs wouldn't fit too.Morse wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2026, 5:02 pmAs fabulous as those songs are, I can see why Neil and Chris (and Parlophone) kept Always, Sexy Northerner, and I Didn't Get Where I Am today off Release. Always and Sexy Northerner aren't guitar sample driven, and I can see why Parlophone queried the inclusion of I Didn't Get Where I Am Today on it as it doesn't quite fit the mood of the album. Sexy Northern and Always are very Pet Shop Boys songs.NOBODY75 wrote: Wed 24 Jun 2026, 1:01 am
I pretty much agree with your opinion. For me, those were the four singles, and in that order. However, I would never have left out Between. Nor The Samurai. It's true that it doesn't fit the album's sound as well, but I don't think Sexy Northerner does either.
I would definitely have removed the last three and included I Didn't Get, Between Two Islands, and Always. For the tenth, I'm torn between Here and Sexy.
But in short, we agree that it could have been a much better album because they had the songs to be.
Neil and Chris openly say that Between Two Islands should have been on the album. I happen to agree with them. Release sounds good as it is. A moment in time for me.
Since we're there anyway, time to turn the record over...Morse wrote: Tue 30 Jun 2026, 9:36 pm The mood and tone of The Samurai in Autumn (wistful) fits Release...albeit it's the one track which sticks out.