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glennjridge wrote:they should refuse the inquiry. Israel knows those who want an investigation are simply asking for the investigation as a form of propaganda against Israel. they should investigate the body bags filled with the losers from turkey and print signs for the next flotilla that say " top 10 things not to do when being boarded by Israel".

Hey yankee! Where do you live? in a Hole in Mars????

one 'loser' from Turkiye was also american.

glennjridge wrote:they should refuse the inquiry. Israel knows those who want an investigation are simply asking for the investigation as a form of propaganda against Israel.

No, those who want an investigation are simply looking to establish the facts. In the absence of a UN investigation, Israel runs the risk of being considered a fascist sectarian pariah state in the eyes of many who would ordinarily be well-disposed to them. The propagandists you refer to will be delighted with Israel's refusal to have the truth established independently. Those seeking the truth will wonder why they refuse and come to their own conclusions.

Drico.

GalataPSB wrote:

glennjridge wrote:they should refuse the inquiry. Israel knows those who want an investigation are simply asking for the investigation as a form of propaganda against Israel. they should investigate the body bags filled with the losers from turkey and print signs for the next flotilla that say " top 10 things not to do when being boarded by Israel".

Hey yankee! Where do you live? in a Hole in Mars????

one 'loser' from Turkiye was also american.

I'm not the boat occupants biographers.the boat was from turkey. I could care less about the various ethnic groups on board.

Drico One wrote:

glennjridge wrote:they should refuse the inquiry. Israel knows those who want an investigation are simply asking for the investigation as a form of propaganda against Israel.

No, those who want an investigation are simply looking to establish the facts. In the absence of a UN investigation, Israel runs the risk of being considered a fascist sectarian pariah state in the eyes of many who would ordinarily be well-disposed to them. The propagandists you refer to will be delighted with Israel's refusal to have the truth established independently. Those seeking the truth will wonder why they refuse and come to their own conclusions.

Drico.

the propaganists are delighted no matter what Israel does. its been a life long double standard.
meanwhile the UN doesnt seem to be bothered that a friendly south korean boat was blown out of the water by a north korean submarine yet want to be all CSI europe regarding a boat full of muslim thugs.

it doesnt do any good no matter what.turkey was well disposed to Israel.now, they seem interested in being another place that seems willing to trade standing by democracy to the long slow slide down to stupidity with muslim extremism with this stunt.

glennjridge wrote:the propaganists are delighted no matter what Israel does. its been a life long double standard.meanwhile the UN doesnt seem to be bothered that a friendly south korean boat was blown out of the water by a north korean submarine yet want to be all CSI europe regarding a boat full of muslim thugs.

Oh, plenty are bothered. It's just that North Korea is a pariah state and Israel is supposedly a democracy.

China and Japan "Back North Korean Financial Sanctions"

glennjridge wrote:it doesnt do any good no matter what.turkey was well disposed to Israel.now, they seem interested in being another place that seems willing to trade standing by democracy to the long slow slide down to stupidity with muslim extremism with this stunt.

And does Ireland seem "willing to trade standing by democracy to the slow slide down to stupidity with Muslin extremism" too? You do realise that an Irish ship was seized as well, don't you?

Can you tell us what Israel was doing using Australian, French, Irish, British, and German passports in murdering a Hamas commander or should there be no investigation there either?

Your defence of Israel in these cases is ridiculous, Glenn. Seeing as you conflate the two crises, I look forward to your stout defence of the North Koreans' actions.

Drico.

this Israeli assassinate a Hamas leader using foreign passports thing....can you imagine the things thru the years the CIA or british MI6 or SIS has done around the globe without applying for a work permit?
I'll tell you one thing....James Bond movies would totally blow if they were restricted by "Drico's rules for secret agent operations." your an example of how soft we are in the face of an enemy that is totally committed .

Israel's only problem is Israel's tactic got found out and got some press. thankfully only after sending another Hamas operative straight to hell where he's most likely getting boned by a 10 foot demonic clown.

Israel is protecting its civilians from a terrorist organization that the hilarious Palestinian people voted in and approve. the blockade is a necessity as weapons getting smuggled to Hamas from outside is the isssue

the north koreans had no fear of any attack by the south koreans.they straight up blew the boat away.
which is kinda Ironic since Israel didn't even do that and you should see why I say Israel used such restraint.

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ugh....I think the last time I saw that woman her legs were sticking out from under a house in Wizard of Oz.

Ahmedinejad : "Israel should be wiped off the map" (An Iranian)

Helen Thomas: Jews Should ‘Get the Hell Out of Palestine and Go Back To Germany And Poland’ (An American)

Who said Iranians and Americans cannot be friends...

glennjridge wrote: I'm not the boat occupants biographers.the boat was from turkey. I could care less about the various ethnic groups on board.

72 miles far from their own waters, entirely in open sea and international waters, Israel carried out an operation on a ship, a civil ship, not a military ship, one is not allowed even do this at all.

Where are the US, UK, EU,the UN, NATO, International laws?


The event :

The Ship: From Turkiye

Passengers : from 32 countries

Organizator : IHH

Pirates : Israel commandos

Result : 9 dead people...


No reaction against God's cursed children! Where are Obama, Sarkozy, Merkel and the others...


Let's change the senario:

The ship : From Turkiye

Organizator : IHH

Passengers : from 32 countries

Pirates : Iran commandos

Result : 9 dead people

America + Israel + UK + France + Germany + Italy + UK + UN + eu start barking....and probably start bombing Iran..

I always say The West has double face.Only Honoured people don't support Israel's last attack.

glennjridge wrote: Israel is protecting its civilians from a terrorist organization that the hilarious Palestinian people voted in and approve. the blockade is a necessity as weapons getting smuggled to Hamas from outside is the isssue

You don't live in this world. I can't see Hamas army. May be, to you, Gaza is bigger than texas.

If Israel has a right to protect its civilians (yes of course), Hamas has that right too.

US activist loses eye after being shot in face with tear gas canister

http://palsolidarity.org/2010/05/12604/


Furkan Dogan and the Anatomy of an Execution

""A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has U.S. citizenship, as shot five times from less than 45 cm away, in the face, the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back, it said." http://thebrothersofjudea.blogspot.com/ ... ution.html

I think Hamas should protect its civilians. They must act.

The event :

The Ship: From Turkiye

Passengers : from 32 countries

Organizator : ACTUAL peaceful charity

Pirates : Israel commandos search boat.find humanitarian aid for palestinians.commandos leave boat.

Result : 10 LIVE people...

glennjridge wrote:they should refuse the inquiry. .

Israel has something to hide...

glennjridge wrote:The event :

The Ship: From Turkiye

Passengers : from 32 countries

Organizator : ACTUAL peaceful charity

Pirates : Israel commandos search boat.find humanitarian aid for palestinians.commandos leave boat.

Result : 10 LIVE people...

Israel Commandos started firing when they were on their boats and Helicopters.. 2 Activists were killed at that moment from their heads..

Organizator : IHH .. What's wrong with it? They sent some materials to the USA after Katrina hurricane...

GalataPSB wrote:
72 miles far from their own waters, entirely in open sea and international waters, Israel carried out an operation on a ship, a civil ship, not a military ship, one is not allowed even do this at all.

Where are the US, UK, EU,the UN, NATO, International laws?

International laws claims that if a boat is trying to break a siege, the country has the right to take over the ship, even outside the none-territorial water

GalataPSB wrote:
The event :
The Ship: From Turkiye

Passengers : from 32 countries

Organizator : IHH

Pirates : Israel commandos

Result : 9 dead people...


No reaction against God's cursed children! Where are Obama, Sarkozy, Merkel and the others...

Lets have a look at what the IHH is :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHH_%28%C4 ... f%C4%B1%29

If you read the "Allegations of terrorist affiliations", you will see that there is a link between IHH, Hamas and Al-Qaida. The later 2 are defined as terror groups.

I can't understand the Turkish hypocrite and care for other people after this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide (oops, that never happened, right?)

Gaza strip is under siege, since it is controled by terror organization, who fires rockets towards Israel cities and holds a captured Israel soldier for over 4 years without giving him any basic rights (like visits from the red cross). The only reason that a siedge is being held is that the content of the supply must be inspected before it enters the strip (to make sure it does not contain weapens).
btw - Egypts are doing the same (closed all paths to the strip).

The fact that Erdoğan and Ahmadinigad stand together yesterday, claiming that 'Turkey and Iran are sisters' reveals the true face of Turkey