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Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 9:19 pm
by Old Soak
I always wonder why artists don't do a greatest extended hits collection - basically choose whatever they consider to be the very best remix for each single. It would be something original and different rather than repackaging the same old same old. Absolutely no interest in this collection, not even a new single to entice and not what I would even judge as a complete set of singles.

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 9:52 pm
by TwizzleUK
Disco. wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 8:35 pm But it was a single version, and all single versions( If they are different ) are included on Further Listening editions. But no 12” remixes appear, and that was the rule.
How Can You Expect To Be Taken Seriously was a 7 inch remix, not a 12"

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 10:34 pm
by Dog
misterme wrote:I Wouldn't Normally Do This Kind Of Thing (7" Mix) was on Further Listening despite being remixed by The Beatmasters, so Seriously? could have been too. The Boys just didn't want it.
Apparently PSB also worked on the Beatmasters mix, which is why it was included on the Further Listening compilation (they only included their own mixes). They weren’t involved in the Seriously mix so it wasn’t included.

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 10:39 pm
by Dog
Disco. wrote:But it was a single version, and all single versions( If they are different ) are included on Further Listening editions. But no 12” remixes appear, and that was the rule.
All single versions weren’t included though. The remix rule was just that they would include their own work, and not that of other remixers.

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 1:57 am
by negative_0ne
Old Soak wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 9:19 pm I always wonder why artists don't do a greatest extended hits collection - basically choose whatever they consider to be the very best remix for each single. It would be something original and different rather than repackaging the same old same old. Absolutely no interest in this collection, not even a new single to entice and not what I would even judge as a complete set of singles.
thats usually up to other labels to do it, or it depends on the band

12 inch collections
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abc
big country
cabaret voltaire
duran duran
depeche mode
erasure
flock of seagulls
go west
human league
inxs
kraftwerk
level 42
ministry
new order
red flag
simple minds
talk talk
thomas dolby
tears for fears
ultravox

pet shop boys have released disco 1-3 also, and you could
make your own from all the further release and cd singles.

people have approached them several times, but they have no interest in the past remixes
or albums.


later
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negati ve1

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 6:36 am
by Disco.
Dog wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 10:39 pm
Disco. wrote:But it was a single version, and all single versions( If they are different ) are included on Further Listening editions. But no 12” remixes appear, and that was the rule.
All single versions weren’t included though. The remix rule was just that they would include their own work, and not that of other remixers.
Yes that was the rule.

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 6:41 am
by Disco.
TwizzleUK wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 9:52 pm
Disco. wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 8:35 pm But it was a single version, and all single versions( If they are different ) are included on Further Listening editions. But no 12” remixes appear, and that was the rule.
How Can You Expect To Be Taken Seriously was a 7 inch remix, not a 12"
Of course not, but as I also wrote, the track from an a-side release that got the most airplay, was the one that the put on Smash.
Another “rule” of theirs.

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 11:29 am
by misterme
Dog wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023, 10:34 pm
misterme wrote:I Wouldn't Normally Do This Kind Of Thing (7" Mix) was on Further Listening despite being remixed by The Beatmasters, so Seriously? could have been too. The Boys just didn't want it.
Apparently PSB also worked on the Beatmasters mix, which is why it was included on the Further Listening compilation (they only included their own mixes). They weren’t involved in the Seriously mix so it wasn’t included.
Yes they were. Brothers In Rhythm made a 7" mix which is not the one that has been released on the 7" single (the 7" Perfect Attitude Mix - that is only available on the US Maxi-CD of Seriously). The mix that the Boys have used on the 7" single is re-edited with some vocal samples added, and I don't remember where I've read it but I recall the Boys saying it was their work.

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 12:13 pm
by Flaffer
misterme wrote: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 11:29 am [quote=Dog post_id=620224 time=<a href="tel:1681940047">1681940047</a> user_id=191]
misterme wrote:I Wouldn't Normally Do This Kind Of Thing (7" Mix) was on Further Listening despite being remixed by The Beatmasters, so Seriously? could have been too. The Boys just didn't want it.
Apparently PSB also worked on the Beatmasters mix, which is why it was included on the Further Listening compilation (they only included their own mixes). They weren’t involved in the Seriously mix so it wasn’t included.
Yes they were. Brothers In Rhythm made a 7" mix which is not the one that has been released on the 7" single (the 7" Perfect Attitude Mix - that is only available on the US Maxi-CD of Seriously). The mix that the Boys have used on the 7" single is re-edited with some vocal samples added, and I don't remember where I've read it but I recall the Boys saying it was their work.
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I was thinking that was the case, thanks for confirming. It was mentioned in Literally iirc. They added the You gotta have funk” sample, which was misprinted as “fun” in Smash Hits, or it may the other way round

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 8:12 pm
by TwizzleUK
Flaffer wrote: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 12:13 pm
misterme wrote: Thu 20 Apr 2023, 11:29 am Yes they were. Brothers In Rhythm made a 7" mix which is not the one that has been released on the 7" single (the 7" Perfect Attitude Mix - that is only available on the US Maxi-CD of Seriously). The mix that the Boys have used on the 7" single is re-edited with some vocal samples added, and I don't remember where I've read it but I recall the Boys saying it was their work.
I was thinking that was the case, thanks for confirming. It was mentioned in Literally iirc. They added the You gotta have funk” sample, which was misprinted as “fun” in Smash Hits, or it may the other way round
If you listen carefully, there's a couple of synth pad sounds taken from the Behaviour version added back in to the PSB 7" version as well that aren't present on the Perfect Attitude mix - I think in the second version and some of the choruses.

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Fri 21 Apr 2023, 4:26 pm
by Tom Angel
So where can you hear the mix that the Boys have used on the 7" single is re-edited with some vocal samples added, and I don't remember where I've read it but I recall the Boys saying it was their work..?

I had no idea about this..

Was it on the UK 7" ?

https://www.discogs.com/master/31143-Pe ... t-To-Be-Ta

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Fri 21 Apr 2023, 6:47 pm
by misterme
I don't have the UK double A-side 7", but I have the french 7" where the tracks have just been swapped. This mix of Seriously can be heard in the video for the song. You have vocal samples, vocoded "you gotta have funk" several times - "do you have a message for your fans, for your fans", and yes TwizzleUK, there are some synth pad from the album version too. None of these are present in any of the other Brothers In Rhythm remixes (extended mix, 7" Perfect Attitude Mix, Perfect Mood Mix and, of course, classical reprise).

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Sat 22 Apr 2023, 10:07 am
by Nina
misterme wrote: Fri 21 Apr 2023, 6:47 pm and yes TwizzleUK, there are some synth pad from the album version too.
why am I not hearing the pads? Is there a particular point that stands out?

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Sat 22 Apr 2023, 12:20 pm
by TwizzleUK
I'll have to check the track later, but it's single notes played by a synth sound that's a bit like a choir voice. Certiainly during the second verse in the background now and then. And also picking out the melody of "How can you expect to be" in the chorus. The same parts are in the Behaviour version. So guess PSB got access to the multitracks of the Perfect Attitude 7" mix, edited it slightly differently and overdubbed some of those original parts, as well as the extra spoken bits to make their own 7' mix.

Re: Smash - The Singles 1985 - 2020

Posted: Sat 22 Apr 2023, 1:13 pm
by Dog
From Literally issue 6:

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