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Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 5:58 pm
by Lush
Dreamcatcher2003 wrote:
drunk14 wrote:I'm dissappointed, i was certain First threesomes

I guess you weren't a fan when PopArt and Disco 3 charted :lol: Then you wouldn't be disappointed now; on the contrary, you would feel ecstatic just like me...

It is beyond my understanding how people still find No 5 a disappointing charting position, considering that even in their heyday, Actually and Introspective reached number 2.
I certainly think number 5 is a respectable position, but there can be no comparisons with Actually and Introspective. The reason those albums did not hit number one was that they were released at a time when two of the best selling albums of all time (Michael Jackson's "Bad" and U2's "Rattle and Hum) were dominating the charts.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 6:03 pm
by Drico One
Actually and Introspective would have reached number five today if they were released for the first time last Monday.

Number five is a tremendous position for a pop band in the game for over 20 years. They've achieved the longevity some of us thought a pipe-dream 15 years ago when Behaviour referenced the term and confirmed a commercial decline which would never be reversed but which now, crucially, will not prove terminal.

Drico.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 6:06 pm
by Dreamcatcher2003
Lush wrote:
Dreamcatcher2003 wrote:
drunk14 wrote:I'm dissappointed, i was certain First threesomes

I guess you weren't a fan when PopArt and Disco 3 charted :lol: Then you wouldn't be disappointed now; on the contrary, you would feel ecstatic just like me...

It is beyond my understanding how people still find No 5 a disappointing charting position, considering that even in their heyday, Actually and Introspective reached number 2.
I certainly think number 5 is a respectable position, but there can be no comparisons with Actually and Introspective. The reason those albums did not hit number one was that they were released at a time when two of the best selling albums of all time (Michael Jackson's "Bad" and U2's "Rattle and Hum) were dominating the charts.
But then PSB were also ruling the charts. Remember those imperial times? Anyway, my point is rather statistical. Number 5 looks great on paper when added to past numbers.

And now, the main challenge is to maintain Fundamental in Top 75 as long as it is possible. I don't know if it happens but it should remain afloat at least until Minimal is released, which, if promoted well, may carry the album until the end of the summer.

I think PopArt left the Top 75 after 6 weeks? 7 weeks?

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 6:07 pm
by Eldritch
Dreamcatcher2003 wrote: I think PopArt left the Top 75 after 6 weeks? 7 weeks?
PopArt stayed six weeks in top 75, but re-entered for two weeks when Flamboyant was released as a single.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 7:07 pm
by Lush
Drico One wrote:Actually and Introspective would have reached number five today if they were released for the first time last Monday.

Number five is a tremendous position for a pop band in the game for over 20 years. They've achieved the longevity some of us thought a pipe-dream 15 years ago when Behaviour referenced the term and confirmed a commercial decline which would never be reversed but which now, crucially, will not prove terminal.

Drico.
I truly is a quite an accomplishment. It's comparable to, say, Gerry and the Pacemakers releasing a top 5 album in 1985. Unthinkable.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 8:03 pm
by Drico One
Lush wrote:I truly is a quite an accomplishment. It's comparable to, say, Gerry and the Pacemakers releasing a top 5 album in 1985. Unthinkable.
Maybe The Kinks would be a better analogy, but I get your point. ;)

Drico.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 9:50 pm
by transforce
Great news. No 5 is an excellent achievement.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 10:10 pm
by Flaffer
E-Mail Vampire wrote:I should imagine it may rise next week.
very unlikely

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 10:14 pm
by Jareth
Drico One wrote:Number five is a tremendous position for a pop band in the game for over 20 years.
It's a tremendous position for a pop bad period, given how unfashionable pop music is these days.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 10:23 pm
by Tenlow
Flaffer wrote:
E-Mail Vampire wrote:I should imagine it may rise next week.
very unlikely
Or better said : impossible :wink:

If it stays top 20 it would be quite good even if that sounds pessimistic...

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 10:26 pm
by Naughty Zoot
E-Mail Vampire wrote:Any news on I'm with stupid on this weeks chart?
I beleive it's @ 47 but I could be wrong.

As for Fundamental entering @ 5: AWESOME !!!!

Think about it --- an intelligent, political, album by 2 "old" men who've been around for 20 years does this good in an arena that favors mindless, sex-drenched, young one hit wonders.

Actually, AWESOME is quite an understatement but better words escape me.

PS: old is in quotes earlier for emphasis & not because I have some ageist issues.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 11:23 pm
by stussyboy
I believe number 5 is very creditable.

Remember Release reached 7, and came in 5 different colours that forced several tragic fans (yes, me) to buy 5 copies.

So 5 is great.

Posted: Sun 28 May 2006, 11:58 pm
by zupzong
Depeche Mode's "playing the angel" entered at number 6 when it came out, so IMO number 5 is fantastic. :D

Posted: Mon 29 May 2006, 12:12 am
by Kandu
Yeah, a top 5 is ok. Barakaldo (Europa) hahahaha! OK, no politics here.

Posted: Mon 29 May 2006, 2:07 am
by alig
brill! just think about it: how many rock bands, let alone pop bands, have managed to keep abreast of times for over 20 years? and how many of them are still releasing quality top 5 albums? the psb are from the 80s ferchrissake! and they're still around and as important as ever. just look at all the reviews and articles! i iz well imposed! aye! :lol: