Is Numb about to be PSB lowest charting single?

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Undertaker · #31 Post by **Undertaker** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 8:41 pm

Eldritch wrote: But #23 singles won't make money. The video, the distribution and making costs, the promotion and the marketing (as little as there is of it) will all take more than the meagre amount of cash that the singles will bring in. If PSB singles really made money, why didn't they then release more singles from Nightlife and Release?

Fair point but the single isnt just released in the U.K. I'm not sure how it all works but would it be EMI paying all the marketing costs, or would whoever owns 'Numb' pay some? By that, i mean Diane Warren or her record company.

Like i mentioned before, it might have been agreed by contract that it must be a single. I dunno.After all, Minimal never sifted any extra copies of the album.

Numb is up 15 places to number 35 in the airplay chart, if anyones interested.

Dave

Rorie · #32 Post by **Rorie** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:02 pm

All speculation, and speculation on speculation.

Numb being a single as part of a contract, not sure.

Should they have put a sticker on it saying written by Dianne Warren. Why not. She is well known, and it sounds Dianne Warren-ish.

Are they maybe releasing it partly because it is a Dianne Warren song? Perhaps that has some influence on their decision making.

I think it is good they paid for it. They are always writing for others. So why not try something someone else wrote that is original (thus not another cover of a released song).

Where will it fall? Dunno. Minimal is a perfect PSB track, and did not do great. More about demographics than appreciation of good music.

PSB fans will still buy it. I did not like it much at first, but then it grew on me. It is not your normal PSB track, so it may appeal to a wider audience. But that means they have to be aware of it.

We'll see later this week where it lands. I am hoping it is at least top 20 and that the PSB gear up for Integral. I think Fundamental is a great album, and deserves a fourth single.

I also think Sodom and Gomorrah is also an excellent song, but with lyrics like that, it will not get airplay, and to radically alter the lyrics would completely change the song. Thus the reasoning it will probably not be a single.

I look at Fundamental, I look at the b-sides, I listen to Robbie's She's Madonna, and these guys still have it in them.

Rorie

dgraysn · #33 Post by **dgraysn** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:26 pm

WOW - this is the silliest post i've read today!

thanks for the laugh!

skyhigh · #34 Post by **skyhigh** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:34 pm

Numb is available in hmv for £3.99 but it's also available for £8.99 now too in the same shop and stocked beside the cheaper ones???? Fundamentalism is up to £17.95, ouch!

It's a helluva track but its a ballad. People dont want a psb ballad they want a psb song. that is why it will not do well and why fundamental got good reviews.

Janet Street-Porter · Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:38 pm

Jesus, all this negativity! I suppose you'll be happy when they're no longer around to release singles and today you could have bought the new one from James 'Interesting' Morrison instead. Numb will never be my favourite PSB track but it was always going to be a single once they'd recorded it. The cover art is gorgeous and obviously a metaphor for AIDS. Once you get over the fact that it's a Diane Warren song you may appreciate it more.

Pani · #36 Post by **Pani** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:41 pm

Janet Street-Porter wrote:The cover art is gorgeous and obviously a metaphor for AIDS.

Can you pls. explain this?

Phillip · #37 Post by **Phillip** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:46 pm

Fundamentalism is up to £17.95, ouch! (To quote Paninaro28)

You Northerners & money...What's the minimal wage now £5.30 ph ha ha.

Janet Street-Porter · Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:48 pm

Pani wrote:Can you pls. explain this?

Plague masks on the cover of a PSB song about death.

Being boring · #39 Post by **Being boring** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 11:16 pm

Only heard it on Radio 2 three times in the last few weeks, only once on The Box today. Had a nightmare trying to find it... only HMV were stocking it. No promotional work so no-one knows it's out!

FLOP written all over it.

Joemoz · #40 Post by **Joemoz** » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 12:09 am

All in all, Numb is perhaps the worst single packages PSB have ever released so I sincerely hope it will be a flop - they should never inflict such dreadfulness on us faithful again.

skyhigh · #41 Post by **skyhigh** » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 12:42 am

Phillip wrote:Fundamentalism is up to £17.95, ouch! (To quote Paninaro28)

You Northerners & money...What's the minimal wage now £5.30 ph ha ha.

i paid a tenner for it in its first week, so.........

Sexy Northeners...get it right, buy the tshirt!

patrick · #42 Post by **patrick** » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 1:00 am

Janet Street-Porter wrote:Plague masks on the cover of a PSB song about death.

And they're gay, don't you see? So it simply must be about AIDS, because that's the only way gay people can die.

Janet Street-Porter · Tue 17 Oct 2006, 9:01 am

patrick wrote:And they're gay, don't you see? So it simply must be about AIDS, because that's the only way gay people can die.

Oh yes, silly me. I mean, they've never written any songs about AIDS before, have they? I believe that most of them are about dying from listening to too much Judy Garland.

E-Mail Vampire · #44 Post by **E-Mail Vampire** » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 9:08 am

I now reckon 42.

dVTB · #45 Post by **dVTB** » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 9:49 am

Janet Street-Porter wrote:Jesus, all this negativity! I suppose you'll be happy when they're no longer around to release singles and today you could have bought the new one from James 'Interesting' Morrison instead. Numb will never be my favourite PSB track but it was always going to be a single once they'd recorded it. The cover art is gorgeous and obviously a metaphor for AIDS. Once you get over the fact that it's a Diane Warren song you may appreciate it more.

The only reason why I like the Numb single release is the fact that we get two new B-sides. The radio edit of Numb is something I wish hadn't heard. If it were for that version of Numb alone, I would have preferred no third single at all.

The cover art is OK, but nothing spectacular nor original (check The Understanding by Röyksopp, for instance). Not that it matters: I don't buy PSB singles for their cover art, but for the content. Fortunately Party Song and Bright Young Things are good.

Numb is a great song. I'm already way over the fact that Diane Warren penned it. Numb is easily one of the best tracks on Fundamental and after two uptempo singles, it was justified to pick a slower song for 3rd single. The only serious options were Numb and Indefinite Leave To Remain. - They picked Numb, fine, but the radio edit ruins the song for me.

This, combined with the fact that CD1 doesn't offer value for money, will probably cause Numb to land outside the UK Top 20; the first single to do so in 15 years time, breaking a string of 20 UK Top 20 hits in a row. So if I also take that into consideration, I can only say: I wish this single never happened.

The James Morrison track is great, by the way.