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Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 5:00 pm
by Dipso
raggatwin wrote:I noted that Chris used to wear REALLY tight trousers in the 80s.....
I have been alarmed by just how many pairs of white jeans Chris has owned over the years.

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 6:54 pm
by miserabalism
Am I right in thinking that David Walliams and Matt Lucas can be spotted in the TOTP audience during the Liberation recording, towards the end of the song?

Also, the Wogan performance of So Hard: that's the one that Chris Lowe stormed off-stage from at the end of the song, isn't it?

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 7:04 pm
by Dipso
miserabalism wrote:Am I right in thinking that David Walliams and Matt Lucas can be spotted in the TOTP audience during the Liberation recording, towards the end of the song?

Also, the Wogan performance of So Hard: that's the one that Chris Lowe stormed off-stage from at the end of the song, isn't it?
Yes on both counts. The Wogan flounce seems to have been edited out though, rather tragically!

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 9:07 pm
by Sandy Shaw
Mr Love wrote:
Oznerol wrote:Are the BBC clips 4:3 full frame (filling the complete screen if you play them on an standard -old- TV), or are they butchered on top and bottom of the image to fit the new 16:9 widescreen LCD format??? I hope they´re in full...it'll be a big disappointment if they're cropped... :pray: :pray:
Can you confirm that info please???
I can confirm they are NOT in full frame (shame on who ever put this together) but in anamorphic 16:9 with black bars on the sides, meaning more than 30% of the horizontal resolution is wasted. Unbelieveable. :wall: Sure, the image isn't cropped, but the quality is very low thanks to this incredibly stupid treatment - if you watch it on a 4:3 telly, you'll have big black bars on all sides.

Moreover, just like the Pandemonium DVD, my standalone player has problems playing this. Guess I'll have to burn it to 2 DVD-Rs instead (one for the TOTP stuff, one for Glastonbury). Well, I'll probably never watch it anyway... :|

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I just use the 1.5 zoom on my DVD remote and although it shaves off some of the image, it really fills my widescreen to great effect.

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 9:16 pm
by Mr Love
As soon as you use the zoom the image quality gets even worse, and me personally would never want to zoom in a 4:3 video just to fill up the full 16:9 screen, but each to his own.

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 9:29 pm
by boyjohn
Mr Love wrote:
Oznerol wrote:Are the BBC clips 4:3 full frame (filling the complete screen if you play them on an standard -old- TV), or are they butchered on top and bottom of the image to fit the new 16:9 widescreen LCD format??? I hope they´re in full...it'll be a big disappointment if they're cropped... :pray: :pray:
Can you confirm that info please???
I can confirm they are NOT in full frame (shame on who ever put this together) but in anamorphic 16:9 with black bars on the sides, meaning more than 30% of the horizontal resolution is wasted. Unbelieveable. :wall: Sure, the image isn't cropped, but the quality is very low thanks to this incredibly stupid treatment - if you watch it on a 4:3 telly, you'll have big black bars on all sides.

Moreover, just like the Pandemonium DVD, my standalone player has problems playing this. Guess I'll have to burn it to 2 DVD-Rs instead (one for the TOTP stuff, one for Glastonbury). Well, I'll probably never watch it anyway... :|

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Well, since there is both 4:3 and 16:9 content, they probably had to do it that way. That way all the videos show correctly on 16:9 TVs (which is most of them these days)

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 10:17 pm
by Sandy Shaw
boyjohn wrote:
Mr Love wrote:
Oznerol wrote:Are the BBC clips 4:3 full frame (filling the complete screen if you play them on an standard -old- TV), or are they butchered on top and bottom of the image to fit the new 16:9 widescreen LCD format??? I hope they´re in full...it'll be a big disappointment if they're cropped... :pray: :pray:
Can you confirm that info please???
I can confirm they are NOT in full frame (shame on who ever put this together) but in anamorphic 16:9 with black bars on the sides, meaning more than 30% of the horizontal resolution is wasted. Unbelieveable. :wall: Sure, the image isn't cropped, but the quality is very low thanks to this incredibly stupid treatment - if you watch it on a 4:3 telly, you'll have big black bars on all sides.

Moreover, just like the Pandemonium DVD, my standalone player has problems playing this. Guess I'll have to burn it to 2 DVD-Rs instead (one for the TOTP stuff, one for Glastonbury). Well, I'll probably never watch it anyway... :|

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Well, since there is both 4:3 and 16:9 content, they probably had to do it that way. That way all the videos show correctly on 16:9 TVs (which is most of them these days)
yep. If we had old fashioned square TV's the early TOTP images would have looked like that (without the black lines each side of course)

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 10:59 pm
by Mr Love
boyjohn wrote: Well, since there is both 4:3 and 16:9 content, they probably had to do it that way. That way all the videos show correctly on 16:9 TVs (which is most of them these days)
Not true, you can mix anamorphic 16:9 and full screen 4:3 content (which will also look correct on a 16:9 telly), the DVD author was just too lazy.

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 11:16 pm
by boyjohn
Mr Love wrote:
boyjohn wrote: Well, since there is both 4:3 and 16:9 content, they probably had to do it that way. That way all the videos show correctly on 16:9 TVs (which is most of them these days)
Not true, you can mix anamorphic 16:9 and full screen 4:3 content (which will also look correct on a 16:9 telly), the DVD author was just too lazy.
Oh ok, good to know. I thought the flag for it was for the whole dvd, didn't know that you could switch back and forth. I guess they took the easy way out and just hard coded everything it for widescreen. At least they didn't crop the 4:3 video and make it 16:9 like they did on youtube for some of the videos.

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Sat 06 Nov 2010, 9:25 am
by herts101
Have I missed something or is Pandemonium/Can You Forgive Her? missing from the DVD?

Surely they did this at Glastonbury given the name of the tour?

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Sat 06 Nov 2010, 9:34 am
by Sandy Shaw
herts101 wrote:Have I missed something or is Pandemonium/Can You Forgive Her? missing from the DVD?

Surely they did this at Glastonbury given the name of the tour?
Despite the name of the tour, I think they cut numbers at some festivals.

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Sat 06 Nov 2010, 11:35 am
by Ramzy
Indeed - the two they cut for the 'masses' were the Yes album tracks (Pandemonium and The way it used to be).

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Sat 06 Nov 2010, 11:12 pm
by Quicksand
As much as Ultimate has left me a little underwhelmed, I have to say the PSB BBC DVD is really something special......

Can't decide what is more powerful....the early performances i.e Opportunities etc, or Glastonbury. So very different, but equally moving.....

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 12:04 am
by djjs91
djjs91 wrote:I too am only buying it for the DVD and looking forward to watching all the TOTP performances.


But I guess I'm in a minority though when I say I don't really get all the hype about Glastonbury 2010. For me it didn't seem any different from their O2 concert, the latter I'd say was better. I would much have rathered Glastonbury 2000 be put on it (guess it wasn't BBC who broadcast it).
OK. I've watched the Glastonbury performance on the DVD and I get it now. Amazing to see Pandemonium outdoors in front of a more general audience too.

Re: PSB BBC DVD

Posted: Fri 12 Nov 2010, 1:36 am
by Firthy2002
miserabalism wrote:Am I right in thinking that David Walliams and Matt Lucas can be spotted in the TOTP audience during the Liberation recording, towards the end of the song?
Yep. I remembered they were on it from a BBC programme a while back.