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skyhigh wrote:so many wonderful traits and you still wouldn't consider him the greatest male movie star of all time? He is han solo, he is indiana jones, he is jack ryan, he is the president of the usa. Not many actors have portrayed so many iconic figures!!

No, because those very traits define him as someone very far removed from what a star is perceived to be. I bet if he walked past you in your local high street you probably wouldn't even recognise him.

The definition of a true movie star used to be someone like Cary Grant, who was a good actor with charm by the bucketload, fantastic comic timing and improvised repartee, and not to mention Hollywood handsomeness to die for, but who, at the end if the day, you never ever forget that it was Cary Grant on the screen, because he always played versions of the character of Cary Grant he created- the complete opposite of a character actor, in other words.

i think my definition of a male movie star and yours are completely different. I don't think off screen persona has any relevance. What makes him the best male movie star is what he has done on the screen, not off it. And to be as he is off screen is more endearing than someone who lives there life as if constantly on film.

skyhigh wrote: I don't think off screen persona has any relevance.

Well then by your own admission, you're interested in acting, not movie stars.

Movie stars are not just stars when they're seen on the big screen, I'm afraid.

Loins Of London wrote:

skyhigh wrote: I don't think off screen persona has any relevance.

Well then by your own admission, you're interested in acting, not movie stars.

Movie stars are not just stars when they're seen on the big screen, I'm afraid.

Im not solely interested in acting as I have previously mentioned the iconic characters played by Ford and their impact on the world. There's no way i'd expect Ford to be oscar nominated every year. You seem to be suggesting that a movie star is greater if they are more in the limelight. I'm suggesting that Ford's exclusivity and traits previously mentioned make him far more synonimous with what is great.

skyhigh wrote:

Loins Of London wrote:

skyhigh wrote: I don't think off screen persona has any relevance.

Well then by your own admission, you're interested in acting, not movie stars.

Movie stars are not just stars when they're seen on the big screen, I'm afraid.

Im not solely interested in acting as I have previously mentioned the iconic characters played by Ford and their impact on the world. There's no way i'd expect Ford to be oscar nominated every year. You seem to be suggesting that a movie star is greater if they are more in the limelight. I'm suggesting that Ford's exclusivity and traits previously mentioned make him far more synonimous with what is great.

Not at all. Ford's desire to stay out of the limelight is admirable, and I applaud him for it. But just because that may make him a great and grounded person doesn't necessarily make him a greater movie star.

Cary Grant and Frank Sinatra were greater stars of their fields and you never saw them doing the whole chat show and interview circuit. Far from it, in fact.

Loins Of London wrote:

skyhigh wrote:

Loins Of London wrote: Well then by your own admission, you're interested in acting, not movie stars.

Movie stars are not just stars when they're seen on the big screen, I'm afraid.

Im not solely interested in acting as I have previously mentioned the iconic characters played by Ford and their impact on the world. There's no way i'd expect Ford to be oscar nominated every year. You seem to be suggesting that a movie star is greater if they are more in the limelight. I'm suggesting that Ford's exclusivity and traits previously mentioned make him far more synonimous with what is great.

Not at all. Ford's desire to stay out of the limelight is admirable, and I applaud him for it. But just because that may make him a great and grounded person doesn't necessarily make him a greater movie star.

Cary Grant and Frank Sinatra were greater stars of their fields and you never saw them doing the whole chat show and interview circuit. Far from it, in fact.

but for all they achieved they are still not as instantly recognised for what theyve portrayed as Ford is. Neither can claim a han solo or indiana jones. The characters make the movie star more than anything.

fact: sad but true. Robert Downey Jnr's portrayal of Iron Man will outweigh his previous work.

skyhigh wrote: but for all they achieved they are still not as instantly recognised for what theyve portrayed as Ford is.

But were you around then?

I doubt very much that anyone can seriously claim that across the whole 20th century, Harrison Ford was better known worldwide than Frank Sinatra.

Kevin Bacon. Only guy with the balls to play a paedophile twice!

I'm a fan of Bacon. the acting and edible kind.both are awesome.

I think one of the movies you are reffering to was sleepers where he played a sadistic guard at a school for juvenile delinquents. great movie.

havent seen the other one yet."the woodsman" I believe.

but he's been in couple of movies I love such as wildthings and a few good men......not so much footloose.

glennjridge wrote:I'm a fan of Bacon.

But is is art?

Where's my fave Montgomery Clift. Sigh

EricMontreal22 wrote:Where's my fave Montgomery Clift.

He's excluded because he didn't retire after his 'accident' therefore ruining his earlier image as one of the most handsome men committed to celluloid.

HAHAHA. He shoulda known better